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Old 11th June 2006   #1
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Default single subject/multiple positions

guys i have been searching the forum on how to have a single subject on different positions with single background, but i guess there was none. (or am too lousy using search function )


can someone pls let us know how to have a single subject, positioned on different place inside a single frame/background.

what i did try was to shoot the subject (multiple frames) from different position & then cut & pasted it on single frame, but the outcome was not good

is there an easier way to do it?



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Old 11th June 2006   #2
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Hi,

Photo to share, just do this very fast, did you mean like this. i use ps and layer.
regards,


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Old 11th June 2006   #3
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let say you shoot a room as background, and need have her positioned on different place of the room.

just shoot it with tripod mounted, each frame one position, same lighting, same exposure.

load all images in PS, drag all into individual layers of one document, erase unwanted areas, flatten it when done.
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Like this?

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Old 11th June 2006   #5
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@ catchlights

my first approach was

create a new doc
then copy paste all the individual frames (lets say 8 images)
then adjust the opacity/fill of each layer
but somehow the subject was like more of a ghost (looks like as if it was floating on the background )

am i on the right track?



@ bigboy_cad & ortega


yeah that's it perfect! how did ya do that?
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Originally Posted by thobs
@ catchlights

my first approach was

create a new doc
then copy paste all the individual frames (lets say 8 images)
then adjust the opacity/fill of each layer
but somehow the subject was like more of a ghost (looks like as if it was floating on the background )

am i on the right track?
almost....
you can use layer mask on each layer to show only the subjects (mask out the unwanted areas, so the subject is opaque), the bottom (backgound) layer is untouched
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Old 11th June 2006   #7
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see post #3 from catchlights
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Old 12th June 2006   #8
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Originally Posted by catchlights
almost....
you can use layer mask on each layer to show only the subjects (mask out the unwanted areas, so the subject is opaque), the bottom (backgound) layer is untouched


thanks bro


here's my attempt, (pls bear with the exposure )

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yes, you did it.

btw, you should including the whole cushion, not just cut out only her butt!

use some feather on the edge, so it will not show too "cut n paste" looks.
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Try some interaction between the figures...

eg, One passing a cup to the other about to receive.
One reading a mag, the other peeping over her shoulder..etc

No need all looking at cam right?..
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Default Re: single subject/multiple positions

Originally Posted by catchlights
yes, you did it.

btw, you should including the whole cushion, not just cut out only her butt!

use some feather on the edge, so it will not show too "cut n paste" looks.



i used the magnetic lasso tool, somehow the lasso got attracted on her butt
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Originally Posted by firestone
Try some interaction between the figures...

eg, One passing a cup to the other about to receive.
One reading a mag, the other peeping over her shoulder..etc

No need all looking at cam right?..


definitely will try this one,

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Originally Posted by thobs
i used the magnetic lasso tool, somehow the lasso got attracted on her butt
add in the cushion also,

if it is on the same b/g, don't have to be perfect register, try to select more, not at the edge, add some feather to the selection.
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shoot multiple frames, keep exposure + wb constant
After that, overlap the different frames in 1 document.
Use a layer mask, paint back only the person that you want to see + a bit of the surrounding on that layer..
It's alot faster than extracting the person..
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Originally Posted by unseen
shoot multiple frames, keep exposure + wb constant
After that, overlap the different frames in 1 document.
Use a layer mask, paint back only the person that you want to see + a bit of the surrounding on that layer..
It's alot faster than extracting the person..


hey sure its a lot faster & easier


ok for the benefit of others who are new (like me) @photoshop here's what i've learn from this forum



1. File> New (set the desired size)
2. Open (all single frames)
3. Drag all files into your New doc.
4. Add Layer Mask> Hide All [one at a time on each (active) Layer]
5. Use the Brush Tool to reveal or paint back the subject
6. Merge or Flatten Image


& remember most importantly
Originally Posted by catchlights
yes, you did it.

btw, you should including the whole cushion, not just cut out only her butt!

use some feather on the edge, so it will not show too "cut n paste" looks
.




Kindly edit the procedure above if i have made a mistake



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Default Re: single subject/multiple positions

Originally Posted by firestone
Try some interaction between the figures...

eg, One passing a cup to the other about to receive.
One reading a mag, the other peeping over her shoulder..etc

No need all looking at cam right?..
And just to add, beside the direct interactions, what will make it more interesting are the other secondary elements like

eg, shadow of one falling on the other...
reflection in glass/mirror showing both/more person...
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