Prescelia @ Marina 03 Jun 06

[compro_1975]

I dun noe why but there is alot od noise so i wanna hear from you what had gone wrong?

#1: too much noise


#2: too much noise


#3: really like couples


#4: really like couples

[compro_1975]

eye-contact shots:



sweet feel:


gilr-next-door:

[eow]

what iso did u shoot at? did u increase brightness during post processing?
pics that are under-exposure tend to show up a lot of noise when u crank up the brightness setting

[compro_1975]

Originally Posted by eow what iso did u shoot at? did u increase brightness during post processing?

so what do you suggest, let's say i use low ISO???

Originally Posted by eow did u increase brightness during post processing?

i did not so anything to edit the pix except the name

[zcf]

you cannot expect too much out from a compact P&S like FX8
at ISO 400 for a P&S, noisy image is unavoidable (may be except Fujifilm F10, F11)
You can reduce the ISO to get the same exposure by decrease shutter speed, but that tend to create object motion blur or camera shake, or using external slave flash to compensate.

[compro_1975]

Originally Posted by zcf you cannot expect too much out from a compact P&S like FX8

yup, i full agree but i hav to be contented with what i hav mah....

Originally Posted by zcf at ISO 400 for a P&S, noisy image is unavoidable (may be except Fujifilm F10, F11) You can reduce the ISO to get the same exposure by decrease shutter speed, but that tend to create object motion blur or camera shake

so is it i use high ISO, but slow shutter?
or
low ISO but high shutter?

Originally Posted by zcf or using external slave flash to compensate.

can i use the dSLR type of ext. flash, cos i dun want to go down to cathay and make a fool of myself there

tks for the help in advance

[Buggy]

if i'm not wrong, your cam's aperture at tele is F5.0. therefore ISO is needed to compensate the exposure... and there comes the noise.

lowering the ISO is possible... but you've to increase your shutter speed, which might lead to blur image.

[zcf]

Originally Posted by compro_1975 yup, i full agree but i hav to be contented with what i hav mah.... so is it i use high ISO, but slow shutter? or low ISO but high shutter? can i use the dSLR type of ext. flash, cos i dun want to go down to cathay and make a fool of myself there tks for the help in advance

Given that FX8 (FX series actually) don't have much manual control (e.g. shutter, aperture priority etc), except those modes and ISO controls. You can't do much about it really.
FX8 is not design to for indoor action (which need high speed, big aperture and high ISO) or zoom (105mm at f/5, not strong enough flash power)

To reduce noise, you may manually adjust the ISO to 200, 100 or 80 even better with lower noise. But the camera will compensate by decrease the shutter time like from 1/60s to 1/15s, which make it more prone to shake (even with Mega OIS, it can only help so much, unless you really got very steady hand and good camera handling technique) or object movement blur.
External slave flash is possible, but it will look odds especially the flash is bigger than your camera already .

[Cyber]

Originally Posted by zcf Given that FX8 (FX series actually) don't have much manual control (e.g. shutter, aperture priority etc), except those modes and ISO controls. You can't do much about it really. FX8 is not design to for indoor action (which need high speed, big aperture and high ISO) or zoom (105mm at f/5, not strong enough flash power) To reduce noise, you may manually adjust the ISO to 200, 100 or 80 even better with lower noise. But the camera will compensate by decrease the shutter time like from 1/60s to 1/15s, which make it more prone to shake (even with Mega OIS, it can only help so much, unless you really got very steady hand and good camera handling technique) or object movement blur. External slave flash is possible, but it will look odds especially the flash is bigger than your camera already .

A good advise indeed.....a flash is needed.....to eliminate the noise....

[donkuok]

#1 to #4 sounds out-of-focus to me and color look dull also.

[Kongo]

Hi compro_1975,

A compact is a bit difficult there as it is inevitable that the noise level will be high.

I am using a 350D on that day, my settings are around ISO800, f2.2, 1/250s.

If you use a compact p&s with small aperture, quite difficult not to pump up the ISO..

Invest in a 2nd hand DSLR & get a cheapo 50f1.8 lens maybe?

[compro_1975]

Originally Posted by zcf To reduce noise, you may manually adjust the ISO to 200, 100 or 80 even better with lower noise. But the camera will compensate by decrease the shutter time like from 1/60s to 1/15s, which make it more prone to shake (even with Mega OIS, it can only help so much, unless you really got very steady hand and good camera handling technique) or object movement blur. External slave flash is possible, but it will look odds especially the flash is bigger than your camera already .

Originally Posted by Kongo Hi compro_1975, A compact is a bit difficult there as it is inevitable that the noise level will be high. I am using a 350D on that day, my settings are around ISO800, f2.2, 1/250s. If you use a compact p&s with small aperture, quite difficult not to pump up the ISO.. Invest in a 2nd hand DSLR & get a cheapo 50f1.8 lens maybe?

tks for the above comments but, zcf you are trying to ask me to bring down the ISO reading with long shutter but Kongo on the other hand is advising me to bring up the ISO.

this is the point i always get confused so is it i choose either one option

[compro_1975]

Originally Posted by donkuok #1 to #4 sounds out-of-focus to me and color look dull also.

it in in focus but i was at least 3m away for them and the place was rather dark so my poor flash was not strong enough to fire a far light

[donkuok]

Originally Posted by compro_1975 it in in focus but i was at least 3m away for them and the place was rather dark so my poor flash was not strong enough to fire a far light

u need a smaller aperture no. f/2.8 to allow more light coming in. for my shots, i also used internal flash. I guess compact camera has its limitation. So better get a cheapo DSLR like 300D, D50 or KM 5D and a third party f2.8 lens

[Kongo]

I mean, it's the limitation of compact p&s.

For the situation, u need to bring up the ISO in order to gather enuff speed to capture the scene with sufficient sharpness. But for a p&s, noise is quite pronounce at such ISO settings, so u need to compromise either sharpness or noise..

A DSLR, on the other hand, can shoot at ISO800 with much lower noise level, thus more ideal for such scenario.

Originally Posted by compro_1975 tks for the above comments but, zcf you are trying to ask me to bring down the ISO reading with long shutter but Kongo on the other hand is advising me to bring up the ISO. this is the point i always get confused so is it i choose either one option

[zcf]

Originally Posted by compro_1975 tks for the above comments but, zcf you are trying to ask me to bring down the ISO reading with long shutter but Kongo on the other hand is advising me to bring up the ISO. this is the point i always get confused so is it i choose either one option

If you have a good slave flash around, then you can bring down the ISO. But as some other mentioned, slave flash is not helpful in this situation as other people falsh will trigger your slave flash also.
Another way of reduce shutter speed to compensate is hard to practice also, you get lower noise image (by lowering ISO), but you make get blur image due to shake (low shutter speed). So can only try to find a balance between all setting.

In this case, the camera have no choice but to increase the ISO itself to get the photo under the low exposure condition.

[kevyyn]

are you shooting at high film speed? 400 have more noise than 100 leh.. must know. are you using auto mode? pic 1 to 3 have too much 'headroom' and could be better if you tilt a little
did you photoshop pic 5? as the iris look too black to be true liao. there is no catch lights or whatsoever to speak about; pic 6 is the bets of the series. BUT. have to use Gaussian blur for the background. if not, it will not be as good, so as to speak. for the last pic, it is obvious that it is motion blur. it is either you are shaking or priscelia is moving. but if that is removed, that is good as well. great attempt though.

[compro_1975]

Originally Posted by kevyyn are you shooting at high film speed? 400 have more noise than 100 leh.. must know. are you using auto mode? pic 1 to 3 have too much 'headroom' and could be better if you tilt a little did you photoshop pic 5? as the iris look too black to be true liao. there is no catch lights or whatsoever to speak about; pic 6 is the bets of the series. BUT. have to use Gaussian blur for the background. if not, it will not be as good, so as to speak. for the last pic, it is obvious that it is motion blur. it is either you are shaking or priscelia is moving. but if that is removed, that is good as well. great attempt though.

wow chiam saying.... but it is good so i noe more tks