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    what about on carpark slopes, especially those in the CBD area...? my mum's CRV do roll backwards sometimes
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    Quote Originally Posted by +evenstar
    ehh..not true..auto cars also roll backwards...
    It's not the car that is lousy, it's the driver.

    The technique I use if the slope is too steep - especially for ngee ann city cp. Use left leg to step on the brakes and right leg to accelerate a bit, so I wont roll back if I let go on the brakes to move up

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    This only works for auto cars - which is why I say most of the roll backwards people are manual car drivers.

    I never roll backwards even on the Uturn slope at scotts road.

    Quote Originally Posted by Klose
    It's not the car that is lousy, it's the driver.

    The technique I use if the slope is too steep - especially for ngee ann city cp. Use left leg to step on the brakes and right leg to accelerate a bit, so I wont roll back if I let go on the brakes to move up

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    Actually, I can also do engine braking on my auto car...

    I did hear that changing from D to N and to D and to N too many times may spoil the vehicle. But I'm not a mechanic so I don't know :P

    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay
    i always put to N whenever possible. when in D, the clutch is always engaged and will keep wearing your clutch plates. furthermore if you're the kind who always go fo red light sprints, it'll wear your clutch out pretty fast. On average, a new set of clutch plates should last you between 3 and 5 years for normal drivers.

    For chiongsters or PG regulars, 1 year or less is also possible

    Forgot to add, I drive manual most of the time now. I prefer the ablity to control my engine braking during turns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123
    This only works for auto cars - which is why I say most of the roll backwards people are manual car drivers.

    I never roll backwards even on the Uturn slope at scotts road.
    The handbrake is very useful

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    that slope power once I drove my dad's old daihatsu 100A. i was stuck on the peak of the slope and i had to accelerate so hard i smelt burnt rubber think it came from the clutch or something..
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    Prefer manual although auto is more convienent.

    With manual u can save fuel. Downhill, push to neutral and go Weee~~~~~
    U see the traffic light 50m ahead is red, accelerate a little, glide on neutral until u see the light turn green when u're 10m, shift down and go.

    U can't really do all these fun stuff (feels so shiok gliding around) with an auto.
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    Actually I did that on my 1.0L auto the last time, I just shift from D to N and glide down going "weeeee".

    That was until someone told me that I can't do that on an auto car without spoiling it. Thing was, I used the 1L auto this way for 2 years without any problems and sold it off after that. It was a 6-7 year old car when I bought it.

    I never tried it on my new car - any mechanics can advise on the feasiblity of gliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by jsbn
    Prefer manual although auto is more convienent.

    With manual u can save fuel. Downhill, push to neutral and go Weee~~~~~
    U see the traffic light 50m ahead is red, accelerate a little, glide on neutral until u see the light turn green when u're 10m, shift down and go.

    U can't really do all these fun stuff (feels so shiok gliding around) with an auto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay
    that slope power once I drove my dad's old daihatsu 100A. i was stuck on the peak of the slope and i had to accelerate so hard i smelt burnt rubber think it came from the clutch or something..
    Burned rubber is from the tires.

    The simple point of having manual is to have more control.
    Same for photography, tats y we seldom shoot in auto.

    Rolling back is because we lack experience.
    Same for photography, tats y sometimes we get under/overexpose shots.
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    I guess its more of safety issue over spoiling clutch gears?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbn
    Prefer manual although auto is more convienent.

    With manual u can save fuel. Downhill, push to neutral and go Weee~~~~~
    U see the traffic light 50m ahead is red, accelerate a little, glide on neutral until u see the light turn green when u're 10m, shift down and go.

    U can't really do all these fun stuff (feels so shiok gliding around) with an auto.
    Its dangerous to let ur car roll forward/reverse wif free gear.
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    With good technique, manual cars will not roll backwards. I drove 6-7 ton 8 gears unimogs up/down the steep mountians (approx 45 degrees slope) of ROC before. Roll backwards, down the mountain you go. Only got 0.5m of clearence each side and its single lane.

    Yes, down slope its better to engage a lower gear for safety purposes. Either one got its advantages. Auto is more for lazy and convience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay
    those are like me i guess.. put to N and pull handbrake but release handbrake first then put to D. Sure rollback.
    CVT will roll back. If its a torque converter type there is some holding power.
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    Bingo

    Quote Originally Posted by Ola
    For car below 1.6, I would recommend manual gear.

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    Of cos, not say going downhill and u freewheel with 2 cars in front of u with the Power Ranger Plate.

    One of them lose their nerve e-brake u're gonna kiss butts.
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    I think Manual is much more dangerous for beginner drivers.

    Auto cars will let you concentrate all your attention on the road.

    Just like most of us always begin photography with auto camera and negatives.
    Sucess rate is almost 100% per roll.

    Manual is like a beginner handling a FM2 and Velvia Slides.
    Sucess rate is much lower.

    Well ruining a roll few of slides is nothing to beginner mah,

    But even a tiny small scratch on your car will cost you $$$ to patch back.

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    Always love manual even tho auto is comfortable but i just get bored without playing the gear. Same goes to bike as well, much fun then auto. haha...

    Manual, the best. When u start at the slope, held ur handbrake, release ur clutch slowly with ur accelarator on and slowly release the handbrake. It shouldnt cause you much roll back at all. This is what we learnt during driving lesson unless all of ur forgotten it. Hehe... Apply the technique correctly, you wun go wrong at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123

    I never tried it on my new car - any mechanics can advise on the feasiblity of gliding?
    You can't do that on auto gear. N position is only meant for when the vehicle is stationary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay
    i always put to N whenever possible. when in D, the clutch is always engaged and will keep wearing your clutch plates. furthermore if you're the kind who always go fo red light sprints, it'll wear your clutch out pretty fast. On average, a new set of clutch plates should last you between 3 and 5 years for normal drivers.

    For chiongsters or PG regulars, 1 year or less is also possible

    Forgot to add, I drive manual most of the time now. I prefer the ablity to control my engine braking during turns.
    Ya i agree, manual gear can do engine brake and jump start or push start when engine fail to start due to battery weak.

    Manual can do some stunt like "initial D" hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by afbug
    With good technique, manual cars will not roll backwards. I drove 6-7 ton 8 gears unimogs up/down the steep mountians (approx 45 degrees slope) of ROC before. Roll backwards, down the mountain you go. Only got 0.5m of clearence each side and its single lane.

    Yes, down slope its better to engage a lower gear for safety purposes. Either one got its advantages. Auto is more for lazy and convience.
    tats rite!
    on top of tat, auto cars are oso quite a road hazards.
    when most auto drivers try to slow down a bit their cars they will usually step on the brakes
    and natural response for the vehicle behind is to think tat car in front maybe braking hard
    and imagine tis effect being pass down a fast moving right lane on the expressway.
    for manual drivers, usually we apply engine brakes for a little bit of slow down so no brakes
    involve.
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