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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdell
    I like to shoot potraits,wedding, event. basicly like to shoot people
    what do you mean by how do I shoot it?


    70-300mm is underutillized because I am lazy to change
    that is why i am thinking of replacing my kit lens to a longer range.
    wide enough and long enough to shoot in wedding/event.



    more interested to the tokina ...f2.8
    didn't know the price could be that high..
    Thanks though for the lens recommendation

    did not know? what equipment u been using to shoot wedding?

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    well...since lazy to change lens...

    3th party 18-200 is the best option for you...about $600 like that ya...

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    one more upZ for 18-70mm
    T11-16F2.8G|N24F1.4G|N50F1.8G|S50F1.4G|N70-200F2.8GVRI

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    70-300mm is underutillized because I am lazy to change
    that is why i am thinking of replacing my kit lens to a longer range.
    wide enough and long enough to shoot in wedding/event.
    if you are lazy to change i recommand you DON GO for fast or f2.8 lens... those lens usually need you to keep changing unless you are able to run up and down to compose your shot. like using 50mm you will have to run all the way to the front in order to get the subject occupying a good amount of space in ur frame.

    18-200 will be the best bet for laziness, but you will lose out alot in speed and quality (including lots of sharpness). and yes with the budget you stated, just get either the tamron or sigma and don think so much
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplorerZ
    if you are lazy to change i recommand you DON GO for fast or f2.8 lens... those lens usually need you to keep changing unless you are able to run up and down to compose your shot. like using 50mm you will have to run all the way to the front in order to get the subject occupying a good amount of space in ur frame.

    18-200 will be the best bet for laziness, but you will lose out alot in speed and quality (including lots of sharpness). and yes with the budget you stated, just get either the tamron or sigma and don think so much
    how much sharpness??

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    Quote Originally Posted by westwest1
    well...since lazy to change lens...

    3th party 18-200 is the best option for you...about $600 like that ya...

    but if I were to get 18-200mm, I won't be able to get f2.8 with my budget.
    I think 24mm to 80mm or 120mm should be enough, shoudn't it?
    what do you think?
    I like to get f2.8 lens

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdell
    but if I were to get 18-200mm, I won't be able to get f2.8 with my budget.
    I think 24mm to 80mm or 120mm should be enough, shoudn't it?
    what do you think?
    I like to get f2.8 lens

    well... u can go ahead getting the 24-80 f2.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdell
    but if I were to get 18-200mm, I won't be able to get f2.8 with my budget.
    I think 24mm to 80mm or 120mm should be enough, shoudn't it?
    what do you think?
    I like to get f2.8 lens
    Since you can't decide on focal length important or Aperture F2.8 important,how are others going to recommend you?
    For $600 budget you can't get the best of both world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westwest1
    well... u can go ahead getting the 24-80 f2.8
    I think I will most probably getting that.
    which brand would you recommend betwen tokina, sigma, and tamron?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaxh81
    Since you can't decide on focal length important or Aperture F2.8 important,how are others going to recommend you?
    For $600 budget you can't get the best of both world.
    I think aperture f2.8 is more important to me

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    upgrade? sure! Zeng your kit lens
    go to Nikon and warn them to upgrade the AF motor, if not @ least lube it more.
    then get them to change all element to ED and aspherical.
    lastly. to get sharp lens.
    use a grinder and Buar till e tip is sharp.

    hope this helps yeah

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    Let's be practical here. There's no 1 lens that's long, big aperture, and still small/light enough to carry around. Constant aperture lenses will not have a large focal length range, so you'll need to change lenses. Else if you don't wish to change lenses, you'll need to carry a few bodies.

    I believe I was in the same plight as you, the best thing to do is to go shoot first, then evaluate what do you really need. Affordability is also very important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdell
    I like to shoot potraits,wedding, event. basicly like to shoot people
    what do you mean by how do I shoot it?


    70-300mm is underutillized because I am lazy to change
    that is why i am thinking of replacing my kit lens to a longer range.
    wide enough and long enough to shoot in wedding/event.



    more interested to the tokina ...f2.8
    didn't know the price could be that high..
    Thanks though for the lens recommendation
    My general feel is that you do not understand how range and aperture can affect your pic. When the range is too far apart, your pics will vignette when you shoot wide. That is why short range lens are expensive. Assuming that I am correct, for example an 18 - 200 range will vignette when you shoot wide. To me, your current configuration is good enough. Cover all ranges already. My poor self has only 18 - 50mm only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdell
    I like to shoot potraits,wedding, event. basicly like to shoot people
    May I assume that you are a wedding photographer? Well, if you are one, then I suppose your skill would be "up there" with the rest of the pros. I would then like to pose these questions to you:

    1.Can the 18-55 kit lens and your 70-300 be used for weddings?
    2. Why your obsession with the magical number 2.8?

    Seriously think about it. There is no right or wrong answer.

    I have seen wedding photographers using the D50 kit lens to shoot weddings. Of course, I have seen those using D2Xes and 2.8 lenses too!!!

    Last year I hired a photographer to do an event for me and he used a D100 with the D50 kit lens. His works? Wow!!!

    My point: The person BEHIND the camera.

    FYI, for about $600, you can get the Sigma or Tamron 18-200 (no VR and no 2.8, of course)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamestan
    May I assume that you are a wedding photographer? Well, if you are one, then I suppose your skill would be "up there" with the rest of the pros. I would then like to pose these questions to you:

    1.Can the 18-55 kit lens and your 70-300 be used for weddings?
    2. Why your obsession with the magical number 2.8?

    Seriously think about it. There is no right or wrong answer.

    I have seen wedding photographers using the D50 kit lens to shoot weddings. Of course, I have seen those using D2Xes and 2.8 lenses too!!!

    Last year I hired a photographer to do an event for me and he used a D100 with the D50 kit lens. His works? Wow!!!

    My point: The person BEHIND the camera.

    FYI, for about $600, you can get the Sigma or Tamron 18-200 (no VR and no 2.8, of course)
    Hi,

    I am not pro , I just started learning photography.
    That's why I need you all advice. please don't assume too high of me.

    To answer your question
    1. Definitely I am not doubting d50 kit lens ability to produce good quality picture.
    but I just thought if I can get a longer range it will be good.
    2. about the number f2.8, I thought with that aperture I can still get bokeh effect.
    above that is difficult unless the background is far enough from the subject.
    Is it true?

    Thanks for asking those two question.
    It made me clear about the reason why I started this thread which is asking recommendation of a lens whose range is longer than my kit lens and has a bigger aperture as well, enough to produce bokeh. and within the budget of mine.
    hopefully you can give a suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdell
    I think I will most probably getting that.
    which brand would you recommend betwen tokina, sigma, and tamron?

    Thanks
    recommend u go there and try out for yourself...this one i cannot advise...

    err...but as a wedding photographer you should understand these better then us right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by westwest1
    recommend u go there and try out for yourself...this one i cannot advise...

    err...but as a wedding photographer you should understand these better then us right?
    please... I am not a wedding photographer
    sorry to give you all the wrong idea about me.
    should have not said wedding...basically I like to shoot people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdell
    Hi,

    I am not pro , I just started learning photography.
    That's why I need you all advice. please don't assume too high of me.

    To answer your question
    1. Definitely I am not doubting d50 kit lens ability to produce good quality picture.
    but I just thought if I can get a longer range it will be good.
    2. about the number f2.8, I thought with that aperture I can still get bokeh effect.
    above that is difficult unless the background is far enough from the subject.
    Is it true?

    Thanks for asking those two question.
    It made me clear about the reason why I started this thread which is asking recommendation of a lens whose range is longer than my kit lens and has a bigger aperture as well, enough to produce bokeh. and within the budget of mine.
    hopefully you can give a suggestion.
    as for aperture thingy...go try it yourself and see it for yourself....

    and you dun have the budget to get that lens... 17-55 f2.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdell
    Hi,

    2. about the number f2.8, I thought with that aperture I can still get bokeh effect.
    above that is difficult unless the background is far enough from the subject.
    Is it true?
    To produce that effect, the range and the aperture will affect the depth. How to explain it? Can anyone help? I dun know how to explain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihsan Chua
    My general feel is that you do not understand how range and aperture can affect your pic. When the range is too far apart, your pics will vignette when you shoot wide. That is why short range lens are expensive. Assuming that I am correct, for example an 18 - 200 range will vignette when you shoot wide. To me, your current configuration is good enough. Cover all ranges already. My poor self has only 18 - 50mm only.
    Please explain how vignette will occur when you shoot wide. Do you know what is vignette?

    Regards,
    Arto.
    Last edited by Artosoft; 29th May 2006 at 11:59 AM.

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