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    Default Does Singapore needs foreign talents in photography?

    While we're on foreign talents, does Singapore need them in the field of photography?

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    Nothing wrong with foreign talents if it can help develop the local standard....

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    no, you need to send singaporeans overseas to learn from foreign countries and their photographers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattlock
    no, you need to send singaporeans overseas to learn from foreign countries and their photographers.
    It won't help if they are so "kuai" after returning to Singapore that they again go with the flow. Many Singaporeans are handicapped by an environment that puts a premium on conformity and not standing out. (It seems most energy has been diverted to the safe way of standing out by scoring as many "A"s as possible in school.) But one has to stand out to be, well, outstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleWolf
    It won't help if they are so "kuai" after returning to Singapore that they again go with the flow. Many Singaporeans are handicapped by an environment that puts a premium on conformity and not standing out. (It seems most energy has been diverted to the safe way of standing out by scoring as many "A"s as possible in school.) But one has to stand out to be, well, outstanding.
    I think that once you go overseas and hang out with overseas photographers you start to change your thinking about photography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattlock
    I think that once you go overseas and hang out with overseas photographers you start to change your thinking about photography.
    But not necessarily about authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleWolf
    But not necessarily about authority.
    you don't need to change your thinking about authority to take meaningful photographs. anyway the people who go into photography and do well tend to have fallen out of the system in the first place.

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    Default Re: Does Singapore needs foreign talents in photography?

    i wont say we need but we hav space for them here, more betta than less.

    there r many kinds of photography, every input & contribution is valuable.

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    actually I'm not that happy with foreign photographers who don't have as much skill coming here to take advertising photography jobs. There are tons of singapore photographers who are up to that standard.

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    NEED!
    Nowdays hire photographers very expensive,
    must invite those from developing nations, pay them $5 per hour for event work. even cheaper than cs photographers hor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattlock
    anyway the people who go into photography and do well tend to have fallen out of the system in the first place.
    That's exactly my point . But then look at the masses of photography hopefuls here on Clubsnap who are eager to learn and follow the rule of thirds, ask what modes/camera settings they "should" use, what the "correct" way of doing things is, buy gizmos like gray cards and plastic caps to put over flashlights because everyone else does it, etc. This is where I think people should dare using their own brain, even it bears the risk of something as horrible as arriving at different conclusions than an "authority".

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    Of course we need foreign talent You know those with big () (), long legs, nice ass and pan asian or ang mo look Oh do forget the jap

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    Hmmm ....

    How if the question is: "Does the foreign countries need Singaporean photographer?"

    Cheers!

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    Default Re: Does Singapore needs foreign talents in photography?

    Quote Originally Posted by mattlock
    no, you need to send singaporeans overseas to learn from foreign countries and their photographers.
    Ditto, i 2nd this

    sporean photogs need to get out of singapore to change our mindset.

    but we also need foreign photogs to take pictures of singapore to let us view our homeland with foreign eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega
    Ditto, i 2nd this

    sporean photogs need to get out of singapore to change our mindset.

    but we also need foreign photogs to take pictures of singapore to let us view our homeland with foreign eyes.
    foreign photographers who take pictures of singapore give us images that are cliched and stereotypical
    it is the local photographers who understand our landscape intimately who can see a more personal beauty in our country.
    Find me a foreign photographer who takes pictures of singapore that don't involve "exotic" elements such as merlions, chinatown, little india,old people, shophouses.

    littlewolf, the people who are in clubsnap asking about rules of thirds and stuff like that are not the ones who will become interesting photographers. anyway there are tons of people like that all over the world, not just in singapore

    if someone starts off with an interest in photography based on the technical aspects, then his photos will always be just technical
    if someone starts off with an interest in photography as a medium to convey one's vision of the world, then it's a totally different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion
    While we're on foreign talents, does Singapore need them in the field of photography?
    U wanna get work permit to singapore?
    Logging Off. "You have 2,631 messages stored, of a total 400 allowed." don't PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega
    Ditto, i 2nd this

    sporean photogs need to get out of singapore to change our mindset.
    why?

    from conforming to a 'local' mindset, to conforming to a 'foreign' mindset?

    Quote Originally Posted by ortega
    but we also need foreign photogs to take pictures of singapore to let us view our homeland with foreign eyes.
    why would i want to do that, let a foreigner tell me how to view my homeland?

    please! no! look at what some of them did with Bugis in the past

    yes, they might bring 'interesting' perspectives from a foreign point-of-view, no doubt about that. but a mistake would be using that as a mirror to look at ourselves. reflection should begin from within.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danntbt
    Nothing wrong with foreign talents if it can help develop the local standard....
    how?

    foreign lecturers with extensive experience and knowledge in the field?

    talks with visiting foreign photographers about their way of thinking, seeing and doing?

    or?
    Last edited by Stereobox; 11th May 2006 at 11:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singscott
    Of course we need foreign talent You know those with big () (), long legs, nice ass and pan asian or ang mo look Oh do forget the jap
    Its not nice calling a Japanese "jap"...
    this is basic respect for other culture & ethnicity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stereobox
    why?

    from conforming to a 'local' mindset, to conforming to a 'foreign' mindset?


    I think the local mindset needs changing, the local mindset is already very rigid due to society and the education system. a wise enough person knows how to learn from the good points of a foreign mindset and apply it to his local mindset, while loosening up that rigidness. nothing like a good dose of western style democracy to open the eyes.
    Last edited by mattlock; 11th May 2006 at 11:24 AM.

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