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    Hello,
    I am using Nikon 28-200mm. I noticed that some of my pictures the background scenery was sharp but the subject in front was soft. The picture was taken at 28mm with F stop of 7.1
    I am using Aperture Priority. When I was took the picture, I focus on the subject not the scenery. With the same setting, some pictures turn out to be sharp for both subject and scenery.
    What have I done wrong ? Hope to get some valuable advise from Gurus out there.

    Cheers.

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    sample of yr pic taken will be great help..

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    Yes, show us a picture of what you mean. You should also include some parameters like whether you are using AF-C or AF-S, where is your focusing point etc etc.

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    Default Re: Picture not sharp-why ?

    yeah check your focusing point. It might not have been central or on your subject?
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    if it's on ai servo the focus might have shifted after you recompose.
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    I believed in your case you were using AF-C, which focuses continually (predictive focusing) on a moving subject. Try using the following technique:
    [in AF-S/ Manual mode]

    1) Focus on your subject, meter your exposure and press the shutter button HALFWAY. Remember to set your zoom accordingly and "lock" the focal length before pressing the shutter button. To ensure that your exposure stays, use the exposure lock function.

    2) With the shutter halfway pressed, the focus should lock. At this point RECOMPOSE your picture/frame and remember to keep the shutter button pressed halfway.

    3) Press the shutter fully and behold your beautiful masterpiece on your LCD screen

    Hope it helps. Personally I use the above for most of my composition of pictures. I suggest using f8 or f11 rather than f7.1 as the earlier 2 are the "sweetspot"s of focus.

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    Sorry to hijack this thread, for fairly large aperture setting like 4.0, is there a minimal distance that we need to have between the subject and the cam inorder to have a sharp image of the subject?

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    show pic might be better for us to advise...hopefully, your lens do not have focussing problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikonnew
    Sorry to hijack this thread, for fairly large aperture setting like 4.0, is there a minimal distance that we need to have between the subject and the cam inorder to have a sharp image of the subject?
    It's all dependent on your lens if i am not wrong. Macro lens allows you to go close, normal lens there is a minimum distance at which you can focus on.

    To all others, please correct this if it's wrong. I am here to learn to

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    Quote Originally Posted by photo2k
    Hello,
    I am using Nikon 28-200mm. I noticed that some of my pictures the background scenery was sharp but the subject in front was soft. The picture was taken at 28mm with F stop of 7.1
    I am using Aperture Priority. When I was took the picture, I focus on the subject not the scenery. With the same setting, some pictures turn out to be sharp for both subject and scenery.
    What have I done wrong ? Hope to get some valuable advise from Gurus out there.

    Cheers.
    NPNT Post them or not very hard for people to figure out what you trying to say ya....

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    Quote Originally Posted by moriahphotos
    It's all dependent on your lens if i am not wrong. Macro lens allows you to go close, normal lens there is a minimum distance at which you can focus on.

    To all others, please correct this if it's wrong. I am here to learn to

    I was using film cam and does not have a scanner, so would not be able to post any pictures, but theoretically, will there be any diff between the two following situation

    Subject is about 5m away

    1) F 4.0, 1/1000 s
    2) F 8 , 1/500s

    The above exposure is only hypotetical,

    I understand the latter will give more DOV, so the background will be more in focus, but will this make a diff in the focus of the foreground subject?

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    Default Re: Picture not sharp-why ?

    sounds like a focusing problem

    try doing it manually,
    no electronics to shift your focus without your knowledge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikonnew
    I was using film cam and does not have a scanner, so would not be able to post any pictures, but theoretically, will there be any diff between the two following situation

    Subject is about 5m away

    1) F 4.0, 1/1000 s
    2) F 8 , 1/500s

    The above exposure is only hypotetical,

    I understand the latter will give more DOV, so the background will be more in focus, but will this make a diff in the focus of the foreground subject?
    First, let me correct you if you don't mind: DoF (Depth of Field). Another one is FoV (Field of View) / AoV (Angle of View).
    DoF (Depth of Field): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field.
    FoV (Field of View) / AoV (Angle of View): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_of_view.

    From your example, yes, aperture give you different DoF. f/4 is more shallow than f/8. While, shutter speed will give no different in DoF.

    DoF is govern by 4 factors:
    1) Lens' aperture.
    2) Focus Distance between camera and subject.
    3) Lens' Focal Length.
    4) CoC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_confusion.

    Hope above help .

    Regards,
    Arto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artosoft
    First, let me correct you if you don't mind: DoF (Depth of Field). Another one is FoV (Field of View) / AoV (Angle of View).
    DoF (Depth of Field): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field.
    FoV (Field of View) / AoV (Angle of View): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_of_view.

    From your example, yes, aperture give you different DoF. f/4 is more shallow than f/8. While, shutter speed will give no different in DoF.

    DoF is govern by 4 factors:
    1) Lens' aperture.
    2) Focus Distance between camera and subject.
    3) Lens' Focal Length.
    4) CoC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_confusion.

    Hope above help .

    Regards,
    Arto.
    Sorry if I sounded confused, but I assume a smaller aperture requires a slower shutter speed most of the time??? but I do agree with Ortega, I also feel it might be a focusing problem....

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    Quote Originally Posted by moriahphotos
    I believed in your case you were using AF-C, which focuses continually (predictive focusing) on a moving subject. Try using the following technique:
    [in AF-S/ Manual mode]

    1) Focus on your subject, meter your exposure and press the shutter button HALFWAY. Remember to set your zoom accordingly and "lock" the focal length before pressing the shutter button. To ensure that your exposure stays, use the exposure lock function.

    2) With the shutter halfway pressed, the focus should lock. At this point RECOMPOSE your picture/frame and remember to keep the shutter button pressed halfway.
    If you are able to select the focussing point on your cam, do so. ie, if your cam have 7 focus points, select the focus point nearest to the subject, then recompose if necessary.
    Focussing is more accurate, IMHO
    too many shots...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikonnew
    Sorry if I sounded confused, but I assume a smaller aperture requires a slower shutter speed most of the time??? but I do agree with Ortega, I also feel it might be a focusing problem....
    That's related to exposure, but not to DoF (Depth of Field).

    Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by codling
    If you are able to select the focussing point on your cam, do so. ie, if your cam have 7 focus points, select the focus point nearest to the subject, then recompose if necessary.
    Focussing is more accurate, IMHO
    Hmmm...

    I don't know about how the rest prefer, but I prefer to put focus point on the center. Half press the shutter release button with the subject on the center, after the focus is achieved, compose the photo. Full press the shutter release button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikonnew
    Subject is about 5m away

    1) F 4.0, 1/1000 s
    2) F 8 , 1/500s

    The above exposure is only hypotetical,
    Just to point out, F4.0 1/1000 is equivalent to F8.0 1/250 or F5.6 1/500. When we talk about DOF, we should keep the EV constant to simplify discussion.

    In any case, go down to a good photo book shop, say Riceball, get a basic book for $30 to $60 and read it all up. That's what everyone should do first.

    The focus on subject, lock focus and recompose before shooting routine works well with telephoto range, but at wide angles, you'll have planar differences that will cause off focus. If you get a book and read this up, you'll know what I mean.

    And modern matrix metering will be thrown VERY far off with the focus, recompose, shoot routine because matrix metering will take focus distance, exposure of various segments and ambient lighting into consideration. Again, think a bit about this or read up matrix metering to understand more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artosoft
    Hmmm...

    I don't know about how the rest prefer, but I prefer to put focus point on the center. Half press the shutter release button with the subject on the center, after the focus is achieved, compose the photo. Full press the shutter release button.

    Regards,
    Arto.
    I do the same, i do not like to let the camera choose the focusing point
    it slows me down

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    Default Re: Picture not sharp-why ?

    It a focusing problem. It is not a DOF problem if the background is sharp.

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