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    wow!! juz read the news here:
    http://www.dcresource.com/news/newsitem.php?id=3300

    its amazing what sensor technology has been put in. juz when i thot small sensors like this is quite impossible to break the 2 digit MP barrier.... well, never say never...

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    Default Re: Casio breaks 10MP on 1/1.8" sensor

    SNR very low?
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    Default Re: Casio breaks 10MP on 1/1.8" sensor

    low noise. ISO3200? i don't believe their claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaiahfortythirtyone
    low noise. ISO3200? i don't believe their claims.
    It's only rated to ISO400. Did they say low noise? Maybe at ISO 50? They didn't say low noise when boosted to ISO3200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightpiper
    wow!! juz read the news here:
    its amazing what sensor technology has been put in. juz when i thot small sensors like this is quite impossible to break the 2 digit MP barrier.... well, never say never...
    It is 1/1.8" - that's large actually.
    1/2.5" is tiny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay
    SNR very low?
    not low at all but its useable & thus, able to market it to sell. juz like the fine line between acceptable useable noise vs best low noise characteristics. launching in June so lets wait & see the actual pic taken by this 10MP P&S.

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    so much MP for P&S for what

    i rather have a 4MP P&S that is as noise free as 5D for all ISO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wai
    so much MP for P&S for what

    i rather have a 4MP P&S that is as noise free as 5D for all ISO
    I rather have a 10MP P&S that is noise free at ISO100 and for ISO1600 I can downsample to 4MP to get lower noise/ finer grain.

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    Geez...that sensor size is even bigger than those on cameras such as S2 IS and FZ20.
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    Default Re: Casio breaks 10MP on 1/1.8" sensor

    This is just breaking the record just for the sake of maybe Guiness Record only. A 3 or 4Mp for a P&S is largely sufficient. Anything more is just an utter waste and utterly useless. If you're thinking of cropping, you get really very, very soft pix.

    I still love my Casio QV-R41 with 1/1.8inch sensor - excellent noise level at ISO500.
    I love big car, big house, big lenses, but small apertures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wai
    so much MP for P&S for what

    i rather have a 4MP P&S that is as noise free as 5D for all ISO

    so much MP for the marketing purpose, if not very hard to create something to sell. really interesting to see something like that. i think in the consumer teritory, MP still sells.

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    Default Re: Casio breaks 10MP on 1/1.8" sensor

    Hmmmm doesn't it mean that the minimum aperture has to be even bigger to avoid diffraction problems?

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    Default Re: Casio breaks 10MP on 1/1.8" sensor

    Quote Originally Posted by nightpiper
    ... launching in June so lets wait & see the actual pic taken by this 10MP P&S.
    No need to wait till June... http://auctions.yahoo.com/sg/auction/99210688
    From Pentax to 4/3, back to Pentax and then back to M4/3 !?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unseen
    Hmmmm doesn't it mean that the minimum aperture has to be even bigger to avoid diffraction problems?
    yet to confirm. i do know of a few P&S that at its smallest aperture, its at F8. perhaps casio managed to get a very hi quality optics supplier that can maintain F10 with min diffraction?

    the yahoo auction thingy is pretty shady... unrated somemore....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightpiper
    yet to confirm. i do know of a few P&S that at its smallest aperture, its at F8. perhaps casio managed to get a very hi quality optics supplier that can maintain F10 with min diffraction?

    the yahoo auction thingy is pretty shady... unrated somemore....
    Nothing to do with the optics.
    http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...hotography.htm

    May be just greek to some of you, but take your time to go through. When I 1st came across it I thought someone was being too cautious, but I had to go through exact same theory + calculations for my FYP project involving digital imaging, of which image sharpness/clarity was of utmost importance.

    A rough translation into layman's speak:
    Smallest aperture before diffraction spoils the picture-
    D2X - F8
    350D/20D - F10
    D70 - F13
    1DMkII/5D/1Ds - F16
    1D - F22

    if 8mp on 350D can only allow F10... then....

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    I don't get it...
    Isn't it already out in Singapore?
    I've already played around with it....

    Why wait till June?
    I'm confused...

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    Quote Originally Posted by unseen
    Nothing to do with the optics.
    http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...hotography.htm

    May be just greek to some of you, but take your time to go through. When I 1st came across it I thought someone was being too cautious, but I had to go through exact same theory + calculations for my FYP project involving digital imaging, of which image sharpness/clarity was of utmost importance.

    A rough translation into layman's speak:
    Smallest aperture before diffraction spoils the picture-
    D2X - F8
    350D/20D - F10
    D70 - F13
    1DMkII/5D/1Ds - F16
    1D - F22

    if 8mp on 350D can only allow F10... then....

    thx unseen, very interesting link. will go thru it again in detail tonight.

    as for the launch date in june, thats purely casio announcement. they maybe doing a big launch event around the world. i reckon freebies will be plenty.

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    Default Re: Casio breaks 10MP on 1/1.8" sensor

    From Pentax to 4/3, back to Pentax and then back to M4/3 !?!?

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    Default Re: Casio breaks 10MP on 1/1.8" sensor

    Hi,

    I am rather glad that companies like Casio are pushing the mega pixels alsog.

    Also Fuji dealing with low noise superCCD.

    Olympus with waterproof without UW casing.

    Canon with CMOS technology,

    Live view.

    And all the things that each are trying to out do each other with; because it gets closer and closer to the ultimate camera.

    A DSLR that has excellent 4 inch live view, 22mp full frame, water safe to 60mtr, will survive a 200 foot drop, zero noise, change lens under water, 864G WiFi, holographic buffer, and so on.

    Ok what ever your ultimate camera is to be, as long as companies keep pushing each other along, the closer it will get.

    Was it not IBM that once thought that computers would never need more than 640k of RAM ?

    Correct me if I have that wrong.

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