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    Guys, this is my first few tries at taking close ups at flowers in my neighbourhood. For your kind comments pls. You may also want to gues what lens I used

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    Default Re: First try at Flower close ups

    i like 2 and 3. try rotating 2 counter-clockwise, might be more interesting for the (whatchacallthatpartoftheflower) to be pointing upwards
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    It's a little bit too much saturated. Isn't it ?

    By the way, maybe use a flash, close the apperture to get more DOF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stougard
    It's a little bit too much saturated. Isn't it ?

    By the way, maybe use a flash, close the apperture to get more DOF.

    Stephane
    Oh... FYI, no PS works done on these photos, just some cropping and borders only. So cant really help it if it is too saturated... you mean I should desaturate it in PS?

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    And btw, what sort of setting do you pple use when taking close ups?

    The above pics i used was mainly 1/200s f3-4

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    Any advises or comments?

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    I mostly use F8 and above with Tamron 90mm..without flash

    IMO - < F5.6 are not my choice for macro

    I will try find a clean background for composition
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    Default Re: First try at Flower close ups

    Thanks for your comments

    Sorry newbie qn: Shouldn't you use bigger apertures (<f5.6) for macro so that your subject will be in focus while the background can be nicely blurred?

    For example, if I use f8 or higher for pic 2 shot, does that mean the whole flower including the petals will be sharp in focus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yehosaphat
    And btw, what sort of setting do you pple use when taking close ups?

    The above pics i used was mainly 1/200s f3-4
    I think understanding depth of field (DOF) is very important in macro photography because DOF determines how much of the subject is in focus and appears sharp.

    Play around with the calculator below and you will get a good understanding about the impact of focal length, aperture and distance to the subject on the DOF.

    If you use very long focal length and shoot from a very short distance to get your subect to appear large in the frame in macro photography, your DOF is extremely narrow, especially if you use larger aperture (i.e. smaller F/ numbers) to allow more light.

    Hopes the above help.

    DOF calculator : http://www.nikonians.org/html/resour...perfocal2.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by yehosaphat
    Thanks for your comments

    Sorry newbie qn: Shouldn't you use bigger apertures (<f5.6) for macro so that your subject will be in focus while the background can be nicely blurred?

    For example, if I use f8 or higher for pic 2 shot, does that mean the whole flower including the petals will be sharp in focus?
    try to read about DOF

    when I do macro shoot, I realise DOF will get smaller.. F8 still able get a clean background..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockunder
    I think understanding depth of field (DOF) is very important in macro photography because DOF determines how much of the subject is in focus and appears sharp.

    Play around with the calculator below and you will get a good understanding about the impact of focal length, aperture and distance to the subject on the DOF.

    If you use very long focal length and shoot from a very short distance to get your subect to appear large in the frame in macro photography, your DOF is extremely narrow, especially if you use larger aperture (i.e. smaller F/ numbers) to allow more light.

    Hopes the above help.

    DOF calculator : http://www.nikonians.org/html/resour...perfocal2.html


    Erm... so say for pic 2, should the petals be in focus or not. My aim is to only get the stigma in focus... is this way of thinking wrong for macro?

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    Oops.. it look like someone had you the answer..
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    Quote Originally Posted by yehosaphat


    Erm... so say for pic 2, should the petals be in focus or not. My aim is to only get the stigma in focus... is this way of thinking wrong for macro?
    I think it the way how you compose...

    in this case, your composition don't work.
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    Default Re: First try at Flower close ups

    So my pic 2 composition wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yehosaphat


    Erm... so say for pic 2, should the petals be in focus or not. My aim is to only get the stigma in focus... is this way of thinking wrong for macro?
    There is no right or wrong. It's all about what you want to show.

    As long as you like what you've shot and composed, then it's ok. However, always open up to alternate views and see the pictures taken by others to determine whether you actually like those better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yehosaphat
    So my pic 2 composition wrong?
    Quote Originally Posted by Clockunder
    There is no right or wrong. It's all about what you want to show.

    As long as you like what you've shot and composed, then it's ok. However, always open up to alternate views and see the pictures taken by others to determine whether you actually like those better.
    I agree...

    if your aim is to show stigma,

    I believe there are many ways or angles to shoot the stigma..
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    In my personal opinion, in picture 2, its composition looks perfectly fine to me (how much and where the flower and stigma appear in the fame and the red/green balance of the whole picture).

    In picture 2, only the tip of the stigma is in focus due to the extreme shallow depth of field. Probably more than 95% of the picture is out of focus while less than 5% is in focus. It may not work with many people. You may want to experiment with various focal lengths, shooting distance and aperture size to have different DOF captured and see which one you like better.

    An altenative would be to have at least the pollent grains to be in focus as well as the tip of the stigma, if not the whole stigma.

    If you shoot from the angle you've done, having the whole flower to be in focus and still having a blur background is extremely difficult, if not impossible. An altenative is to shoot from the side if you want to have the flower as well as its whole stigma to be in focus.

    Due to the shallow DOF in macro, we often have to think carefully about the DOF we want to achieve and then decide on not only on the focal length, shooting distance and aperture size but also the angle from which we should shoot it from in order to have the things we want to be in focus to appear in focus in the picture.

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    Ok! Thanks for the insightful comments!

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