When do i use these lens?

sinn3r · 18th March 2006

guys i'm thinking of getting the following lens, but unsure on which one to get first. and i'm not sure if i'm getting the right lenses and if they will be put to any use by me. kindly enlighten me

1. 70-200 F4L
2. 17-40 F4L
3. 24-105 F4L (upgrading from Tamron 24-105)
4. 100mm f/2.8

mainly i like to shoot nature, landscapes, little potraits and some misc. i am hoping to try macro too but the only "macro" lens i have now is a 50mm reversed

in which order should the above 4 lenses be purchased and why?

current lens i have are:

Tamron 24-135mm F/3.5-5.6, 18-55, 50mm 1.8 on a 1.6x body.

Stoned · 18th March 2006

The tamron 24-135 is a very good lens and best of all, it's cheap too. If you don't have the extra moolah, don't bother upgrading to the 24-105.

I'd recommend purchasing in this order. The reversed 50 method is highly troublesome.

100/2.8(This makes a great portrait lens as well and should serve your macro needs nicely. If you like doing insects you might like to consider a 150mm or a 180mm lens instead)
17-40/4 (You can survive on the 18-55 first. It may become necessary to replace it later as having to stop down to f8 isn't very flexible.)
70-200/4(i don't know why you even need this. It's too short for birds if that's what you're thinking of. It's primarily an events lens, and looking at your needs it's not really necessary. Try the Sigma 70-300/4-5.6 APO Macro Super II instead.)
24-105/4(Last on the priority list. I wouldn't even buy this if I were you, but hey, since you asked for purchasing order, here it is.)

sinn3r · 18th March 2006

thanks for the tips.

i was looking at the 70-200 F4L simply because i want a white shark in my dry cabi

and some times i like to take shots of wedding couples unnoticed. hmmm not considering any other third party this time as i'm trying to make my collection of lens "L".

24-105 because i prefer a all round lens to save the trouble of switching lens in a very kan jiong situation

i thought it's a good walk around lens? what is this compared to 24-135? what exactly is the difference besides it's constant F4?

lets just say i don't have a kit lens. which should my first upgrade? 17-40 or 24-105?

i like insects but i know the EF 180 is never going to my in my reach unless i get more jobs

Originally Posted by Stoned

The tamron 24-135 is a very good lens and best of all, it's cheap too. If you don't have the extra moolah, don't bother upgrading to the 24-105.

I'd recommend purchasing in this order. The reversed 50 method is highly troublesome.

100/2.8(This makes a great portrait lens as well and should serve your macro needs nicely. If you like doing insects you might like to consider a 150mm or a 180mm lens instead)
17-40/4 (You can survive on the 18-55 first. It may become necessary to replace it later as having to stop down to f8 isn't very flexible.)
70-200/4(i don't know why you even need this. It's too short for birds if that's what you're thinking of. It's primarily an events lens, and looking at your needs it's not really necessary. Try the Sigma 70-300/4-5.6 APO Macro Super II instead.)
24-105/4(Last on the priority list. I wouldn't even buy this if I were you, but hey, since you asked for purchasing order, here it is.)

lensbaby · 18th March 2006

1. 24-105 F4L
2. 70-200 F4L
3. 17-40 F4L
4. 100mm f/2.8

24-105L is a great walkabout lens. You are right you can save the trouble of switching lens

If you may consider the 70-300 IS. Its beats the f4L by one stop. You will also be happy to have many many and much more keptable shot than the f4L. Also dont forget this is a hidden L and with 100mm more range. Have you ever wonder why ppl are seeling this lens (f4L)? I do

and still wondering

Lastly 17-40 the last buy for landscape and space constrain shot.

That is how i see it in the buying order

sinn3r · 18th March 2006

thanks guys!

will be heading down to get the 24-105mm later and maybe either the 70-200 or 70-300 next weekend!

+evenstar · 18th March 2006

Originally Posted by sinn3r

guys i'm thinking of getting the following lens, but unsure on which one to get first. and i'm not sure if i'm getting the right lenses and if they will be put to any use by me. kindly enlighten me

1. 70-200 F4L
2. 17-40 F4L
3. 24-105 F4L (upgrading from Tamron 24-105)
4. 100mm f/2.8

mainly i like to shoot nature, landscapes, little potraits and some misc. i am hoping to try macro too but the only "macro" lens i have now is a 50mm reversed

in which order should the above 4 lenses be purchased and why?

current lens i have are:

Tamron 24-135mm F/3.5-5.6, 18-55, 50mm 1.8 on a 1.6x body.

180mm f3.5L Macro --> can be used for all your needs

What kind of nature are you shooting? Nature not necessarily mean just birds alone. Macro (plants/insects) is also a type of nature shoot.

Stoned · 18th March 2006

Originally Posted by lensbaby

If you may consider the 70-300 IS. Its beats the f4L by one stop. You will also be happy to have many many and much more keptable shot than the f4L. Also dont forget this is a hidden L and with 100mm more range.

having a larger f number isn't a good thing if you didn't realise. the f2.8L beats the f4L by one stop, the 70-300 does not. KEEPABLE shots, is usually determined by the user and not the lens. Why is it a hidden L, pray tell?

solarii · 18th March 2006

Originally Posted by Stoned

having a larger f number isn't a good thing if you didn't realise. the f2.8L beats the f4L by one stop, the 70-300 does not. KEEPABLE shots, is usually determined by the user and not the lens. Why is it a hidden L, pray tell?

He's just quoting a review here (read the verdict):
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/len...56is/index.htm

And sinn3r, don't buy a lens cos its an expensive L glass. Yeah it may look good toting a white beast around, boost yr ego etc, but at the end of the day its the pictures that count.

lensbaby · 18th March 2006

Originally Posted by solarii

He's just quoting a review here (read the verdict):
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/len...56is/index.htm

And sinn3r, don't buy a lens cos its an expensive L glass. Yeah it may look good toting a white beast around, boost yr ego etc, but at the end of the day its the pictures that count.

Well said

He wasn't even thinking f2.8 IS

..... which is a great lens.

CSlye · 18th March 2006

Hiya, of course KEEPABLE shots are determined by the user. It depends whether he has brought his tripot/monopot along and the luxuary of time/space/orientation to shoot from a supported position

kekeke. Just kidding mate ....

Originally Posted by Stoned

having a larger f number isn't a good thing if you didn't realise. the f2.8L beats the f4L by one stop, the 70-300 does not. KEEPABLE shots, is usually determined by the user and not the lens. Why is it a hidden L, pray tell?

Stoned · 18th March 2006

Originally Posted by CSlye

Hiya, of course KEEPABLE shots are determined by the user. It depends whether he has brought his tripot/monopot along and the luxuary of time/space/orientation to shoot from a supported position kekeke. Just kidding mate ....

So you mean to say that people who shoot handheld will never get keepers unless they shoot from a supported position? My my, people must have jelly for arms, be shooting at ISO 50 and f22 then.

+evenstar · 18th March 2006

and pray tell me, what's tripot and a monopot?? Can cook tea/coffee anot?

CSlye · 18th March 2006

Urm .... the tripot can make 3 cups of milo and the monopot 1? Need it 'cause got to carry the big and bulky f/2.8 lens without IS and tripod mar ... kekeke

Originally Posted by +evenstar

and pray tell me, what's tripot and a monopot?? Can cook tea/coffee anot?

18th March 2006	#1
sinn3r New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 43	When do i use these lens? guys i'm thinking of getting the following lens, but unsure on which one to get first. and i'm not sure if i'm getting the right lenses and if they will be put to any use by me. kindly enlighten me 1. 70-200 F4L 2. 17-40 F4L 3. 24-105 F4L (upgrading from Tamron 24-105) 4. 100mm f/2.8 mainly i like to shoot nature, landscapes, little potraits and some misc. i am hoping to try macro too but the only "macro" lens i have now is a 50mm reversed in which order should the above 4 lenses be purchased and why? current lens i have are: Tamron 24-135mm F/3.5-5.6, 18-55, 50mm 1.8 on a 1.6x body.

18th March 2006	#2
Stoned Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Changi Posts: 4,376	Re: When do i use these lens? The tamron 24-135 is a very good lens and best of all, it's cheap too. If you don't have the extra moolah, don't bother upgrading to the 24-105. I'd recommend purchasing in this order. The reversed 50 method is highly troublesome. 100/2.8(This makes a great portrait lens as well and should serve your macro needs nicely. If you like doing insects you might like to consider a 150mm or a 180mm lens instead) 17-40/4 (You can survive on the 18-55 first. It may become necessary to replace it later as having to stop down to f8 isn't very flexible.) 70-200/4(i don't know why you even need this. It's too short for birds if that's what you're thinking of. It's primarily an events lens, and looking at your needs it's not really necessary. Try the Sigma 70-300/4-5.6 APO Macro Super II instead.) 24-105/4(Last on the priority list. I wouldn't even buy this if I were you, but hey, since you asked for purchasing order, here it is.) __________________ My Personal Folio (of random events and things)

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lensbaby New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 14	Re: When do i use these lens? 1. 24-105 F4L 2. 70-200 F4L 3. 17-40 F4L 4. 100mm f/2.8 24-105L is a great walkabout lens. You are right you can save the trouble of switching lens If you may consider the 70-300 IS. Its beats the f4L by one stop. You will also be happy to have many many and much more keptable shot than the f4L. Also dont forget this is a hidden L and with 100mm more range. Have you ever wonder why ppl are seeling this lens (f4L)? I do and still wondering Lastly 17-40 the last buy for landscape and space constrain shot. That is how i see it in the buying order Last edited by lensbaby; 18th March 2006 at 01:13 PM.

18th March 2006	#5
sinn3r New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 43	Re: When do i use these lens? thanks guys! will be heading down to get the 24-105mm later and maybe either the 70-200 or 70-300 next weekend!

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+evenstar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 5,451	Re: When do i use these lens? and pray tell me, what's tripot and a monopot?? Can cook tea/coffee anot? __________________ the SEARCH FUNCTION is there for a reason. USE IT!