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As you can see from the above post, this competition started off with 2 categories, digital camera photographs and handphone photographs. This competition was kicked off with 2 sportspeople taking MMS photos of themselves at a carnival with the event organizers encouraging everyone there to submit their very own HANDPHONE shots in hopes of winning a prize in the MMS category, or digital camera shots. So everyone there, including me, started sending our own hp shots to them. Then days before the closing date they combined the prizes on the website only, while their galleries still posted up-to-date photos of the latest submissions of camera and hp shots, leading many to think they still accepted MMS and Camera shots as two separate categories. Then come today, on their website 'Winners' tab it is shown that there will be 2 First prizes, 2 Second prizes etc and none whatsoever mention or explanation of the removal of the previous categories. In my humble opinion this is really unfair to entrants who had submitted for the MMS section as NONE of the Winners is submitted by handphone shots. If there is a mixture, it is still acceptable, but none? And yes, pardon my bitching, as I am really upset over the hushhush manner they removed the categories without informing in the newspapers at all unlike what they had done when the competiton was started (pg3 on straits times). should I write in to the straits times forum especially since The Straits Times is a media partner? ![]() Last edited by germ_boi; 13th March 2006 at 09:46 PM. |
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thanks redstone, that is tantamount to a breach of trust i would say, have written a letter to ST already. so angry
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Don't worry. You're not the only one pisssed. Someone wrote to us to ask us publish it. The best written one goes like this:
Descrepancies: S'pore Youth Commonwealth Photo Competition To Whom It May Concern I refer to the above mentioned competition that was organised in kind. I have been observing the posted gallery and the final 50 entries for the competion and wish to blow the whistle regarding ethics in fair competiton and its credibility. First of all, a great number of entries has been disqualified unfairly due to the rules stipulated by the uploading site. In the "Terms & Conditions" page, it is said that online submission of the photos should be "less than 500kb" (http://www.commonwealthphotos.org/tc.html) whereas the uploading page says, "Minimum file size of the digital photograph should be 500KB (not exceeding 3MB)" - http://www.commonwealthphotos.org/upload.aspx This leads to double standards and easy disqualification of many relevant and beautiful photos submitted by the public depending on what is the final "terms" by the people handling the photos. Secondly, the relavence to this year's theme on the choice "Top 50" photos are on extreme ends. It's either they are totally related or otherwise;making it all too easy to spot which photos will win. The choice of photos seems to suggest that only 4 at most of the Top 50 photos will win the competition. The reason seems suggestive, only 4 of the photos are relavent whereas the entire rest of the Top 50 photos are of non-relavence. This somehoe suggest that the competion is been "fixed". Look at the following examples, how are they related to this year's theme: a) Sharp siloutte of man fishing while some blured figures ran by: http://www.commonwealthphotos.org/Administration/Photos/Web/W1102.jpg b) Man doing and flippie at the beach talking about water issues: http://www.commonwealthphotos.org/Administration/Photos/Web/W2982.jpg c) A teen doing a kicking pose: http://www.commonwealthphotos.org/Administration/Photos/Web/W2749.jpg d) Butts Shot of girls in bikini: http://www.commonwealthphotos.org/Administration/Photos/Web/W1524.jpg Furthermore, we have not touched on the issues of poorly cropped photo and poorly exposed quality of the majority "Top 50 Photos". It is not difficult to find better quality and more related photos in those that did not made it to the "Top 50". Thirdly, I used to see lots of photos related to science and innovation but never made it to the "Top 50". So has the this year's theme been realigned? It does not paint a pure and free spirited faith of Commonwealth Youths. I sincerely hope you would help me to voice this issue for the sake of justice. Thank you for your time. |
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hi eyes,
you are from? how come got people email you to ask you to publish? haha. Hopefully my letter gets published in ST Forum. damn pissed |
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None from the MMS photo gallery...
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AND this is supposed to be organised by the Commonwealth Society, with the HRM the Queen as judge?
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I only know one of the judges (IIRC) is Minister Mah Bow Tan. |
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russell wong, the head of SPH, and the minister.
for such high profile people, the top50 is certainly of a low standard, yes. and such descrepancies in judging and handling, I wonder if this will be another fiasco. |
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I'm from a local magazine publisher. Not related to SPH group of companies. Anyway, the local judge is Russell, an editor from ST itself. You think they would want to slap themselves by publishing your letter?
Write to NYAC. Call them also. Write to Commonwealth HQ. Singaporeans really seem tame. Back in the States, if anyone for any reason shortchanges, it's a big issue. Anyway, if you really wanna join fair competitions, look at the panel of judges- that applies to everthing else in life- incl. work.
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sorry, but NYAC is?
thanks for your suggestion, doing that now |
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Singapore http://www.nyaa.org/ |
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Alright eyes, you have been very helpful!
Written to Commonwealth already, with a postscript to this thread and your post. Go sleep now lest the eye bags cover your eyes! haha so how have others been affected? please post your views here! |
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However i must agree that finding that i can submit more than one pic later on in the competition may have dis-advantaged those who submitted early and did not check back to see that they can submit more pictures. Also pity those who spent $$ to send MMS and later find that they have to compete with higher resolution cameras. |
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But nonetheless, it is their moral responsibility to AT LEAST write a notice on their site stating CLEARLY that the two categories have been merged.
Yes, it's kinda sad, I submitted a lot of MMS. |
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U want ur fame or a prize for a competition so badly that u can taste it? Yes. But its like selling ur soul to the devil where he calls the shots. Happy-happy change. Not happy dun change. ![]() For me, well, I juz join. Win good. Never win means I still no good. Better luck next time. ![]()
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wnat to join den join. join n when r&r change cry for wat? wanting pity? hah
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"Food sold are non-refundable or exchangable. Stall owner has rights to change contents withour prior notice." It's not about begging for sympathy. It's about being responsible. It seems that the R&R change only on the last day of competition when the prizes are announced. I don't think this is right and responsible and they own the rights to use the images submitted. What if they amend the prizes such that there are no prizes given at all but the organisers still own the rights to the images? FREE AWARD WINNING PHOTOS?! I can empathise with germ_boi as he has sent many MMS, taken much time to find a good shot as well. I guess the school holidays are here and the school kids are free to troll on forums again. ![]()
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