bishan afternoon ir

airforce1 · 26th February 2006

Went to bishan and practice ir. Objectives is to make normal landscape as interesting to the eyes. Here is the concept of my take. Please comment and advise.

Fish finder

It's a long walk.

Bridge as the focal points

By the side of the lake.
Using the lake side to guide the eyes to the pictures

airforce1 · 27th February 2006

All the pros and guru and master welcome share some discussion. Share your technics and ideas.

I am using line eg. path, tracks and side of the lake as a guiding focus focal point for the pictures. I hopes it is correct. I am newbies lah.

Francis247 · 27th February 2006

Hi Airforce1,

Very nice series. However, not sure if I am right, but it seems that the last photo has a hot spot in the centre or is it because that part is in the shade. Can anyone confirm this.

teerex · 27th February 2006

Hi abdul,

Most of the guys are normally quite busy after the weekend. Just hang on for a while, I'm quite sure that they'll see your request.

But a quick one from me. Looks like they're a bit overbightened in your post processing, a bit washed out, Wonder what your out of cam unprocessed pictures look like. Would you like to post the out of cam and let the guys have a try.

photoexpress · 27th February 2006

Hi abdul,

I like the angle... I think the images are a bit overexposed. Think Teerex's suggestion is good, care to share the unprocessed pict?

btw, Francis is right... there is hotspot in the pict (i think so)

Cheers!

ark19 · 27th February 2006

Actually all 4 have hotspot.
How was the weather condition? Overcast?

deadpixel · 28th February 2006

Hi Abdul,

Were these from your D100i?

Nice try with the composition techniques. I understand what you're showing here and yes, using straight lines and curves correctly would usually draw people into the photo...however, (forgive my directness) the "flatness" or lack of contrast in these photos sort of cause the lines and curves to "blend" into the photo, reducing their impact. The hot spot, eventhough slight, now gets our attention as your lines and curves lead into them.

There are about a half-a-dozen ways to change this and one of them is to convert the photos to high contrast black and white...I hope you don't mind but I've tinkered with three of your photos (the fish-finder one was a cute idea but the way) to show you what I mean...

(It's a Long Walk)

(Bridge as the focal points)

(By the side of the lake)

This way, you get the lines standing out a little more and the background popping out, which is what your lines are leading the people to.

BTW, to prevent the hot spot, try shooting with a bigger aperture. To capture the maximum depth of field (sharp details) in landscape with a large aperture, use hyperfocal.

Cheers,
Matt

airforce1 · 28th February 2006

Thank you for all the advise and critique. This lenses has hotspots and tend to flaring. Here is the raw file, feel free to share.

http://www.sharkegg.per.sg/rawbs1.jpg

http://www.sharkegg.per.sg/rawbs2.jpg

http://www.sharkegg.per.sg/rawbs3.jpg

http://www.sharkegg.per.sg/rawbs4.jpg

photoexpress · 28th February 2006

Hi Abdul, thanks for sharing your original file... Hope you don't mind me posting/pping your pict. What I did is making the picture more contrast using curves. Hope this work for you.

26th February 2006	#1
airforce1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,140	bishan afternoon ir Went to bishan and practice ir. Objectives is to make normal landscape as interesting to the eyes. Here is the concept of my take. Please comment and advise. Fish finder It's a long walk. Bridge as the focal points By the side of the lake. Using the lake side to guide the eyes to the pictures __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/airforce1 Think of concepts and work towards it.

27th February 2006	#2
airforce1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,140	Re: bishan afternoon ir All the pros and guru and master welcome share some discussion. Share your technics and ideas. I am using line eg. path, tracks and side of the lake as a guiding focus focal point for the pictures. I hopes it is correct. I am newbies lah. __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/airforce1 Think of concepts and work towards it.

27th February 2006	#3
Francis247 Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hougang, Sengkang Posts: 5,347	Re: bishan afternoon ir Hi Airforce1, Very nice series. However, not sure if I am right, but it seems that the last photo has a hot spot in the centre or is it because that part is in the shade. Can anyone confirm this. __________________ 莫问前程有愧,只求今生无悔. Time pasts, Places changed, Beauty faded, what is left are Photos of Memories… Last edited by Francis247; 27th February 2006 at 08:04 AM.

27th February 2006	#4
teerex Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 4,650	Re: bishan afternoon ir Hi abdul, Most of the guys are normally quite busy after the weekend. Just hang on for a while, I'm quite sure that they'll see your request. But a quick one from me. Looks like they're a bit overbightened in your post processing, a bit washed out, Wonder what your out of cam unprocessed pictures look like. Would you like to post the out of cam and let the guys have a try.

27th February 2006	#5
photoexpress Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Singapore (South) Posts: 1,073	Re: bishan afternoon ir Hi abdul, I like the angle... I think the images are a bit overexposed. Think Teerex's suggestion is good, care to share the unprocessed pict? btw, Francis is right... there is hotspot in the pict (i think so) Cheers!

27th February 2006	#6
ark19 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ark19.multiply.com Posts: 3,080	Re: bishan afternoon ir Actually all 4 have hotspot. How was the weather condition? Overcast?

28th February 2006	#7
deadpixel Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: East Posts: 1,252	Re: bishan afternoon ir Hi Abdul, Were these from your D100i? Nice try with the composition techniques. I understand what you're showing here and yes, using straight lines and curves correctly would usually draw people into the photo...however, (forgive my directness) the "flatness" or lack of contrast in these photos sort of cause the lines and curves to "blend" into the photo, reducing their impact. The hot spot, eventhough slight, now gets our attention as your lines and curves lead into them. There are about a half-a-dozen ways to change this and one of them is to convert the photos to high contrast black and white...I hope you don't mind but I've tinkered with three of your photos (the fish-finder one was a cute idea but the way) to show you what I mean... (It's a Long Walk) (Bridge as the focal points) (By the side of the lake) This way, you get the lines standing out a little more and the background popping out, which is what your lines are leading the people to. BTW, to prevent the hot spot, try shooting with a bigger aperture. To capture the maximum depth of field (sharp details) in landscape with a large aperture, use hyperfocal. Cheers, Matt __________________ My Gallery IR Photography Black & White

28th February 2006	#8
airforce1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,140	Re: bishan afternoon ir Thank you for all the advise and critique. This lenses has hotspots and tend to flaring. Here is the raw file, feel free to share. http://www.sharkegg.per.sg/rawbs1.jpg http://www.sharkegg.per.sg/rawbs2.jpg http://www.sharkegg.per.sg/rawbs3.jpg http://www.sharkegg.per.sg/rawbs4.jpg __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/airforce1 Think of concepts and work towards it.

28th February 2006	#9
photoexpress Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Singapore (South) Posts: 1,073	Re: bishan afternoon ir Hi Abdul, thanks for sharing your original file... Hope you don't mind me posting/pping your pict. What I did is making the picture more contrast using curves. Hope this work for you.