PLanning to upgrade

BirdRobin · 19th February 2006

Hello guys, I am quite new to club snap, and love photography. (obviously. T.T) I currently own a lowly canon A60, served me well for the past 2 years. Now planning to upgrade to a D50 or D70/s. Got myself pretty trained up for owning a DSLR. I have no dry cabinet, no lens, no nothing.

My budget is pretty tight, and only can afford $1300 or below. The 3 options for me are:

1) new nikon D50 with kit lens. ($1288 with 1gb SD card + blah blah...)
2) 2nd hand D70 body, rest of the money for a new lens???
3) 2nd hand D50 body, rest of the money for a new lens???

which one shld i take?

do you guys think i can get a 'good' useful range lens for less than $300? 2nd hand? or shld i go with option 1? And what is the difference btw D70s and D50?

thanks for looking and your valuble comments.

ivan · 19th February 2006

Hi, you may like to visit this link for more infomation

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond50/

King Tiger · 19th February 2006

Originally Posted by BirdRobin

My budget is pretty tight, and only can afford $1300 or below. The 3 options for me are:

1) new nikon D50 with kit lens. ($1288 with 1gb SD card + blah blah...)
2) 2nd hand D70 body, rest of the money for a new lens???
3) 2nd hand D50 body, rest of the money for a new lens???

which one shld i take?

Hello BirdRobin

I would recommend you to get an 2nd hand D70 body (or D70s better).

Originally Posted by BirdRobin

do you guys think i can get a 'good' useful range lens for less than $300? .

Get the Nikkor 18-70mm lense, it is an all rounder value for money lense.
You will never go wrong with this.

Originally Posted by BirdRobin

And what is the difference btw D70s and D50?

Do a search on Nikon website on comparison between the DSLRs.

yanyewkay · 19th February 2006

i think you're stretching your budget a bit too tight.. actually I would recommend you to save up a bit more before commiting to a DSLR. after owning a body and 'simple' lens.. the urge to buy something else to upgrade will always be there. Think carefully.

and what's 'trained up' to own a DSLR?

BirdRobin · 19th February 2006

Originally Posted by yanyewkay

i think you're stretching your budget a bit too tight.. actually I would recommend you to save up a bit more before commiting to a DSLR. after owning a body and 'simple' lens.. the urge to buy something else to upgrade will always be there. Think carefully.

and what's 'trained up' to own a DSLR?

as in i have the skills to handle a DSLR, but i don't have one.

TMC · 19th February 2006

Contact nightwolf75, about the D70 that he is holding on to. With that you can still have enough to prob get a 18-70.

BirdRobin · 19th February 2006

Originally Posted by King Tiger

Hello BirdRobin

I would recommend you to get an 2nd hand D70 body (or D70s better).

Get the Nikkor 18-70mm lense, it is an all rounder value for money lense.
You will never go wrong with this.

Do a search on Nikon website on comparison between the DSLRs.

from what I know, 1) no backlight for top LCD monitor, no mirror lockup, slower burst speed (which i dont care), lousier kit lens, SD card. any other important aspects i shld know?

and one more question. which viewfinder is bigger/smaller? or are they the same? (D50, D70, D70s)

BirdRobin · 19th February 2006

Originally Posted by TMC

Contact nightwolf75, about the D70 that he is holding on to. With that you can still have enough to prob get a 18-70.

thats cool i will pm him

eugenep · 20th February 2006

get 2nd hand d70 with kit lens ... but u will end up getting flash and wanting for more...

BirdRobin · 20th February 2006

Originally Posted by eugenep

get 2nd hand d70 with kit lens ... but u will end up getting flash and wanting for more...

Jacobyeo · 20th February 2006

hmm.. would recommend u to get the d70.. personally used to d50 and noticed that the pictures comes out to be very 'white'.. the white areas are very saturated.. compared with a canon 350D and the difference is very obvious.. maybe because it is a 8 megapixel..

picture quality isnt as good as the d70.. strongly recommend that u get the d70 or save up for the 350D.. its worth it

markccm · 20th February 2006

Originally Posted by Jacobyeo

hmm.. would recommend u to get the d70.. personally used to d50 and noticed that the pictures comes out to be very 'white'.. the white areas are very saturated.. compared with a canon 350D and the difference is very obvious.. maybe because it is a 8 megapixel.. picture quality isnt as good as the d70.. strongly recommend that u get the d70 or save up for the 350D.. its worth it

white is likely bcoz exposure is wrong.
plbv

8MP or not, nothing to do with it.

BirdRobin · 20th February 2006

hmm, anybody knows this? "and one more question. which viewfinder is bigger/smaller? or are they the same? (D50, D70, D70s)"

and if compared to 350D? (maybe wrong place to ask this

)

Jacobyeo · 20th February 2006

Originally Posted by markccm

white is likely bcoz exposure is wrong.
plbv

8MP or not, nothing to do with it.

if thats the case.. then wont it prove that the d50 metering system is not to standard?

TMC · 20th February 2006

depends on the surroundings. had to say exactly what is the problem w/o a pic. if the contrast is too high, then there is no choice. So far D50`s metering sensor has not been reported to have any problems. Might also be becoz of the the way your friend metered the exposure.

markccm · 20th February 2006

Originally Posted by Jacobyeo

if thats the case.. then wont it prove that the d50 metering system is not to standard?

it depends on wat u meter.
the camera & the metring system is constant.

the user is the variable.

superfly · 20th February 2006

I am in the same dilemma... new D50 Kit or second hand D70 Body + Lens... tough decision.

Francis247 · 20th February 2006

Originally Posted by superfly

I am in the same dilemma... new D50 Kit or second hand D70 Body + Lens... tough decision.

You can do a search function in Clubsnap. This topic had been discussed for quite a few times already.

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthrea...highlight=d70s
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthrea...highlight=d70s

espn · 20th February 2006

Originally Posted by Jacobyeo

if thats the case.. then wont it prove that the d50 metering system is not to standard?

A camera's metering is as good as the user controlling the metering, the camera itself doesn't know what to meter or how to meter unless the user tells the camera so. If the metering is to standard + perfect, then it won't have built in EV compensation for the photographer to control it.

As for the output from the D50, it's ability is somewhat modified from the D70/D70S which produces better JPEGs (no PP necessary) out of camera as compared to the D70/D70S. Of course for a cheaper camera you can expect the following things different from the D70/D70S as I've personally tried and compared the D50/D70:

- Lower DR, practially none actually, not even superb DR even in RAW
- Better out of cam JPEGs
- Colors a bit flat
- Lacking backlight for LCD (which I cannot live without)

superfly · 20th February 2006

Originally Posted by Francis247

You can do a search function in Clubsnap. This topic had been discussed for quite a few times already.

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthrea...highlight=d70s
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthrea...highlight=d70s

Thanks for the links! Will go find out more from the other discussion threads.

19th February 2006	#1
BirdRobin Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Clementi Ave 3 Posts: 255	PLanning to upgrade Hello guys, I am quite new to club snap, and love photography. (obviously. T.T) I currently own a lowly canon A60, served me well for the past 2 years. Now planning to upgrade to a D50 or D70/s. Got myself pretty trained up for owning a DSLR. I have no dry cabinet, no lens, no nothing. My budget is pretty tight, and only can afford $1300 or below. The 3 options for me are: 1) new nikon D50 with kit lens. ($1288 with 1gb SD card + blah blah...) 2) 2nd hand D70 body, rest of the money for a new lens??? 3) 2nd hand D50 body, rest of the money for a new lens??? which one shld i take? do you guys think i can get a 'good' useful range lens for less than $300? 2nd hand? or shld i go with option 1? And what is the difference btw D70s and D50? thanks for looking and your valuble comments.

19th February 2006	#2
ivan Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 448	Re: PLanning to upgrade Hi, you may like to visit this link for more infomation http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond50/

19th February 2006	#4
yanyewkay Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cons digger. Posts: 4,046	Re: PLanning to upgrade i think you're stretching your budget a bit too tight.. actually I would recommend you to save up a bit more before commiting to a DSLR. after owning a body and 'simple' lens.. the urge to buy something else to upgrade will always be there. Think carefully. and what's 'trained up' to own a DSLR? __________________ “How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.” - Adolf Hitler

19th February 2006	#6
TMC Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Beyond Space-Time Continuum Posts: 5,921	Re: PLanning to upgrade Contact nightwolf75, about the D70 that he is holding on to. With that you can still have enough to prob get a 18-70. __________________ Selling: 32GB Thumbdrive - Patriot Xporter XT 120sgd (Price reduced)

20th February 2006	#9
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20th February 2006	#11
Jacobyeo Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Singapore East Posts: 125	Re: PLanning to upgrade hmm.. would recommend u to get the d70.. personally used to d50 and noticed that the pictures comes out to be very 'white'.. the white areas are very saturated.. compared with a canon 350D and the difference is very obvious.. maybe because it is a 8 megapixel.. picture quality isnt as good as the d70.. strongly recommend that u get the d70 or save up for the 350D.. its worth it

20th February 2006	#13
BirdRobin Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Clementi Ave 3 Posts: 255	Re: PLanning to upgrade hmm, anybody knows this? "and one more question. which viewfinder is bigger/smaller? or are they the same? (D50, D70, D70s)" and if compared to 350D? (maybe wrong place to ask this )

20th February 2006	#15
TMC Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Beyond Space-Time Continuum Posts: 5,921	Re: PLanning to upgrade depends on the surroundings. had to say exactly what is the problem w/o a pic. if the contrast is too high, then there is no choice. So far D50`s metering sensor has not been reported to have any problems. Might also be becoz of the the way your friend metered the exposure. __________________ Selling: 32GB Thumbdrive - Patriot Xporter XT 120sgd (Price reduced)

20th February 2006	#17
superfly Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jurong West Posts: 229	Re: PLanning to upgrade I am in the same dilemma... new D50 Kit or second hand D70 Body + Lens... tough decision.