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Old 14th February 2006   #1
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Default Buy 2nd cam with extra battery, will it freeze?

I was aware that rechargeables tend to freeze if they are not used for too long.
When a camera "used only once during the past 6 months", how do I make sure
the original & extra battery are in workable condition?

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Old 14th February 2006   #2
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Default Re: Buy 2nd cam with extra battery, will it freeze?

My freezing means the battery dry and unusable due to long time idleness.
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Old 14th February 2006   #3
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Default Re: Buy 2nd cam with extra battery, will it freeze?

Test yrself loh...

Sadly unless there's no way to tell unless you use it. Batteries usually show irregular behaviour during normal use. But if you wanna use yr camera once in six months might as well just rent.
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Default Re: Buy 2nd cam with extra battery, will it freeze?

i guess you're refering to memory effect? if the batt is fully drained before sitting on it's butt for the past 6mths it should't be any problem but if it's fully charged it should be a goner... anyway litium ions has little memory effect though


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My freezing means the battery dry and unusable due to long time idleness.
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Default Re: Buy 2nd cam with extra battery, will it freeze?

Originally Posted by guojielun
i guess you're refering to memory effect? if the batt is fully drained before sitting on it's butt for the past 6mths it should't be any problem but if it's fully charged it should be a goner... anyway litium ions has little memory effect though
Confused now.
Do I store battery fully charged or fully drained if I anticipate not using it for few months?
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Old 14th February 2006   #6
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Default Re: Buy 2nd cam with extra battery, will it freeze?

always store it fully DRAINED. never store it charged. never never

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Confused now.
Do I store battery fully charged or fully drained if I anticipate not using it for few months?
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Default Re: Buy 2nd cam with extra battery, will it freeze?

Originally Posted by guojielun
always store it fully DRAINED. never store it charged. never never
Thank you. Understood.
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Old 14th February 2006   #8
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Default Re: Buy 2nd cam with extra battery, will it freeze?

Originally Posted by guojielun
always store it fully DRAINED. never store it charged. never never
Where did you get this information from?
Any references?
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Old 14th February 2006   #9
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Default Re: Buy 2nd cam with extra battery, will it freeze?

litium ions based battery are best store at 40% charge...
fully drained or fully charged will shorten its lifespan...

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Default Re: Buy 2nd cam with extra battery, will it freeze?

Some CSers misunderstood me I guess. I use my cameras oftenly and intended to
purchase a 2nd hand system which was "used only once during the past 6 months".
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Default Re: Buy 2nd cam with extra battery, will it freeze?

Originally Posted by dRebelXT
Some CSers misunderstood me I guess. I use my cameras oftenly and intended to
purchase a 2nd hand system which was "used only once during the past 6 months".
this will depend how the owner store the battery...n how they take care of it...
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Old 15th February 2006   #12
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Default Re: Buy 2nd cam with extra battery, will it freeze?

www.daddyhobby.com playing serious nitro/batt RC is also one of my other hobbies... do a search... oh btw the new batts i got from sterintek it's manual says that too... of cos each has their own method or theory this is just mine


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Old 15th February 2006   #13
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Default Re: Buy 2nd cam with extra battery, will it freeze?

Originally Posted by guojielun
i guess you're refering to memory effect? if the batt is fully drained before sitting on it's butt for the past 6mths it should't be any problem but if it's fully charged it should be a goner... anyway litium ions has little memory effect though
this is called self-discharge not memory effect.

"Memory effect" is the state where the battery refuses to hold the specific amount of charge it was designed for.

The common effect which we see: Battery being charged full but depletes rapid beyond it's normal capacity is actually termed "voltage depression".

either way, depression or memory, it does not describe the batteries in storage and losing it's charge
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Old 15th February 2006   #14
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Default Re: Buy 2nd cam with extra battery, will it freeze?

well done... i support your statement. it seems i've used the wrong term... apologiees

Originally Posted by yanyewkay
this is called self-discharge not memory effect.

"Memory effect" is the state where the battery refuses to hold the specific amount of charge it was designed for.

The common effect which we see: Battery being charged full but depletes rapid beyond it's normal capacity is actually termed "voltage depression".

either way, depression or memory, it does not describe the batteries in storage and losing it's charge
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