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Old 8th February 2006   #1
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Default Flash 430 EX

hi can those of u who have used a 430 ex tell me whether nits strong enough for bounced flash? i prefer this to the 580 Ex for travelling but someone told me its not strong enoughto bounce. comments please thanks
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Old 8th February 2006   #2
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Default Re: flash 430 EX

420 OR 430

Originally Posted by gtan
hi can those of u who have used a 430 ex tell me whether nits strong enough for bounced flash? i prefer this to the 580 Ex for travelling but someone told me its not strong enoughto bounce. comments please thanks
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Old 8th February 2006   #3
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Whos the "someone" who told you its not strong enough to bounce? The 580EX defintely has more power but I don't see why a 430EX can't bounce. If your ceilings aren't that high, I don't see why not.
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Old 8th February 2006   #4
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Default Re: flash 430 EX

Agree...even my 420EX can bounce. There's no logic why a 430EX can't, it's totally rubbish.
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Old 8th February 2006   #5
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Sure can bounce...where got such things as not strong enuf to bounce?
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Old 8th February 2006   #6
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If got the cash...buy the 580EX, u won't regret it.
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Old 8th February 2006   #7
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Default Re: flash 430 EX

Whether your flash can 'bounce' or not depends on whether there's any ceiling for it to bounce off. Obviously, if you 'ceiling' is like the lowest cloud level, you can't expect any light to bounce back to the subject.
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Old 8th February 2006   #8
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Bounce can only be achieved is the ceiling is not too high and make sure the surface is white.
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Old 8th February 2006   #9
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Default Re: flash 430 EX

thanks from one acsian to another, do u know if the extra power in the 580 makes a significant diff in bounce performance?
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Old 8th February 2006   #10
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Default Re: flash 430 EX

Originally Posted by weeteck
thanks from one acsian to another, do u know if the extra power in the 580 makes a significant diff in bounce performance?
It depends on how you define "significant". Theoretically yes there is a difference, but if your ceiling's too high or you're out in the open then the point is moot.

The main reason for getting a 580EX are the advanced features like Commander mode, faster recycle times etc. Its not really worth while to bother about bounce capabilities... chances are if the 430EX can't provide enough bounce flash the 580 won't make it either.
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Old 8th February 2006   #11
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Default Re: flash 430 EX

But the 580EX has significant flash range increase compared to 430EX.
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Old 8th February 2006   #12
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Default Re: flash 430 EX

The 430EX is a powerful flash unit that can perform most of the job the 580EX can do. Just to note to everyone that the 430EX flash head seems a little loose when compared to the 580EX. I cant really tell the difference between the two except for the weight. Good luck.
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Old 8th February 2006   #13
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Default Re: flash 430 EX

The 580EX flash head has an extra bounce card.
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Old 8th February 2006   #14
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Default Re: flash 430 EX

Originally Posted by Snoweagle
The 580EX flash head has an extra bounce card.
...which I seldom use. Heh. To each his own I guess. Cheers!
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Old 8th February 2006   #15
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Default Re: flash 430 EX

Originally Posted by gtan
i prefer this to the 580 Ex for travelling
I presume you mean the weight. I don't think 580EX is that much heavier than 430EX, 50 or 75g may be.
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Old 8th February 2006   #16
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Default Re: flash 430 EX

Originally Posted by hazmee
...which I seldom use. Heh. To each his own I guess. Cheers!
If i were u i'd rather buy a large external bounce card and velcro it to my flash head, it's more useful.
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Old 8th February 2006   #17
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Default Re: flash 430 EX

in terms of flash power 420<430<550<580

look at the price tag first before deciding
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Old 8th February 2006   #18
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Originally Posted by user111
in terms of flash power 420<430<550<580

look at the price tag first before deciding
still got 200<220<380<420......
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Old 9th February 2006   #19
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the rest are low end hence on par more or less. for the low end series, main issue will be the associated price tag, not the actual firepower
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Old 9th February 2006   #20
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Default Re: Flash 430 EX

Originally Posted by user111
the rest are low end hence on par more or less. for the low end series, main issue will be the associated price tag, not the actual firepower
Yupz 200EX and 220EX do now offer any bounce whatsoever. They're just autoflash flashes hehe...
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