Which IR filter?

[Hoky]

I'm looking at IR photography and am keen to get my interests stirred up on this topic.
But I'm not sure which / what IR filter is good... kindly advise.

Btw, I'm using 350D... is it IR sensitive?

[Nisa]

Originally Posted by Hoky I'm looking at IR photography and am keen to get my interests stirred up on this topic. But I'm not sure which / what IR filter is good... kindly advise.

There is an outing soon, just say what size you need
Usually people will have an extra piece to lend you to try it out frist.

[teerex]

Originally Posted by Hoky I'm looking at IR photography and am keen to get my interests stirred up on this topic. But I'm not sure which / what IR filter is good... kindly advise. Btw, I'm using 350D... is it IR sensitive?

The 350D is capable of capturing IR. But expect a long exposure time. Pablo has compiled a list of IR capable camera HERE

Other than the camera, you may also be interested to know which lenses are good and bad for IR. Here's the list compiled by Tomcat.


his is a list of Canon lens originally posted by tomcat last year.

It shows which of the Canon lens are good or bad for IR photography :

Good
Canon EF 17-40mm f/4 L
Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L
Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
Canon EF 28mm f/2.8
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 MKI
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 MKII
Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L
Canon EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 IS
Canon EF 135mm f/2L
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.0-5.6 IS L
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 macro
Canon EF 28mm f/1.8 USM
Sigma AF 15mm f/2.8 EX Fisheye

Bad
Canon EF 16-35mm f2.8 L
Canon EF 20mm f/2.8
Canon EF 35mm f/2
Canon EF 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5
Canon EF 28-70mm f/2.8L
Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5
Canon EF 35-80 f/4.0-5.6
Canon EF 50mm f/1.4
Canon EF 50mm f/2.5 Macro
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS
Canon EF 85mm f/1.8
Tamron 70-300mm f3.x-xxx Macro
Sigma 20mm f/1.8
Sigma 50-500mm "Bigma"
Tamron 19-35mm

I had just tried out the EF 50mm f/1.8 Mk 2 today and can confirm that it is very good for IR photography - no hot-spot whatosever.


I hope you don't mind me re-posting this tomcat.

Cheers

If you're free this Sunday, join the guys for the IR SHOOT. Just add your name to the list and they'll wait for you.
Depending on the filter size you require, most of the guys have a spare for you to try out.

Which filter is good? Depends on what you want as different filters give different effects. So there's no good of bad IR filter. Generally the 2 common ones are the Hoya R72 and Cokin P007. The R72 being the more popular one.

[ark19]

For IR filters, the most common is R72.
And you must bring along a tripod to shoot

[Hoky]

Thanks to everyone for your posts. Esp Teerex.
Unfortunately, I'm going overseas tomorrow for two weeks and will not be able to join in the outing.

Btw, will we see the effects of IR instantly thru the viewfinder? or it has to be done through long exposures on the digital film (sensor)?

[Hoky]

B+W seems to be about the same price as the R72.
Anyone tried B+W before?

[vince123123]

Hmm, is there a similar list for Nikon lenses?

Originally Posted by teerex The 350D is capable of capturing IR. But expect a long exposure time. Pablo has compiled a list of IR capable camera HERE Other than the camera, you may also be interested to know which lenses are good and bad for IR. Here's the list compiled by Tomcat. his is a list of Canon lens originally posted by tomcat last year. It shows which of the Canon lens are good or bad for IR photography : Good Canon EF 17-40mm f/4 L Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Canon EF 28mm f/2.8 Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 MKI Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 MKII Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L Canon EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 IS Canon EF 135mm f/2L Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.0-5.6 IS L Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 macro Canon EF 28mm f/1.8 USM Sigma AF 15mm f/2.8 EX Fisheye Bad Canon EF 16-35mm f2.8 L Canon EF 20mm f/2.8 Canon EF 35mm f/2 Canon EF 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 Canon EF 28-70mm f/2.8L Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 Canon EF 35-80 f/4.0-5.6 Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 Canon EF 50mm f/2.5 Macro Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 Tamron 70-300mm f3.x-xxx Macro Sigma 20mm f/1.8 Sigma 50-500mm "Bigma" Tamron 19-35mm I had just tried out the EF 50mm f/1.8 Mk 2 today and can confirm that it is very good for IR photography - no hot-spot whatosever. I hope you don't mind me re-posting this tomcat. Cheers If you're free this Sunday, join the guys for the IR SHOOT. Just add your name to the list and they'll wait for you. Depending on the filter size you require, most of the guys have a spare for you to try out. Which filter is good? Depends on what you want as different filters give different effects. So there's no good of bad IR filter. Generally the 2 common ones are the Hoya R72 and Cokin P007. The R72 being the more popular one.

[teerex]

Originally Posted by Hoky Thanks to everyone for your posts. Esp Teerex. Unfortunately, I'm going overseas tomorrow for two weeks and will not be able to join in the outing. Btw, will we see the effects of IR instantly thru the viewfinder? or it has to be done through long exposures on the digital film (sensor)?

When shooting IR, with the filter over the lens you won't be able to see anything as the filter is too dark. Especially the R72.

So you need to do your framing first then fit filter over the lens to shoot. D70/D70s can AF with the filter over the lens. Not sure about if the 350D can AF, you may need to pre-focus first before fitting the filter.

After shooting, what you see in preview on your LCD is not the final result. Some post processing need to be done before results are like what you see in the pics posted.

B+W ... very expensive and not easily available in stores locally, have to order. If I'm not wrong, results are BnW like the Tiffen #87. So you won't be able to get the blue skies. But if you take 2 shots of the same scene, one color the other IR, then with masking and blending you will be able to get colored IR.

[teerex]

Originally Posted by vince123123 Hmm, is there a similar list for Nikon lenses?

So far don't think anyone has compiled such a list for Nikkor Lenses.

Anyone like to take up the challenge to do it?

[Hoky]

Originally Posted by teerex When shooting IR, with the filter over the lens you won't be able to see anything as the filter is too dark. Especially the R72. So you need to do your framing first then fit filter over the lens to shoot. D70/D70s can AF with the filter over the lens. Not sure about if the 350D can AF, you may need to pre-focus first before fitting the filter. After shooting, what you see in preview on your LCD is not the final result. Some post processing need to be done before results are like what you see in the pics posted. B+W ... very expensive and not easily available in stores locally, have to order. If I'm not wrong, results are BnW like the Tiffen #87. So you won't be able to get the blue skies. But if you take 2 shots of the same scene, one color the other IR, then with masking and blending you will be able to get colored IR.

Excellent explanation.
I'm going to the states in March and may consider getting my IR filter there.
I'll go with the Hoya R72 since there's more tutorials about the post processing around.
Meanwhile, I'll do some reading up on the required PS actions.

[eawtan]

Originally Posted by teerex So far don't think anyone has compiled such a list for Nikkor Lenses. Anyone like to take up the challenge to do it?

I personally feel different nikon mount cams have slightly different characteristics, thus the same lens may show greater problems on one cam, but not the other.

My findings...

On a nikon D1, the nikon 18-70 has no problems , but on the fuji s2 - it has a tendency to show "hot spot" with R72, but almost gone on the 2xELP . nikon 12-24 has no problems on both bodies or with either filters.

[KHC]

Other than the camera, you may also be interested to know which lenses are good and bad for IR. Here's the list compiled by Tomcat.


his is a list of Canon lens originally posted by tomcat last year.

[i]It shows which of the Canon lens are good or bad for IR photography :

Good
Canon EF 17-40mm f/4 L
Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L
Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
Canon EF 28mm f/2.8
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 MKI
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 MKII
Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L
Canon EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 IS
Canon EF 135mm f/2L
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.0-5.6 IS L
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 macro
Canon EF 28mm f/1.8 USM
Sigma AF 15mm f/2.8 EX Fisheye

Bad
Canon EF 16-35mm f2.8 L
Canon EF 20mm f/2.8
Canon EF 35mm f/2
Canon EF 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5
Canon EF 28-70mm f/2.8L
Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5
Canon EF 35-80 f/4.0-5.6
Canon EF 50mm f/1.4
Canon EF 50mm f/2.5 Macro
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS
Canon EF 85mm f/1.8
Tamron 70-300mm f3.x-xxx Macro
Sigma 20mm f/1.8
Sigma 50-500mm "Bigma"
Tamron 19-35mm

I had just tried out the EF 50mm f/1.8 Mk 2 today and can confirm that it is very good for IR photography - no hot-spot whatosever.


Do the Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4.0-5.6 IS good for IR ??
Need advise .......