20D + 17-40 f/4L or 10D + 17-40 f/4L + 70-200 f/4L ?

[wolf_agent]

Say with a budget of S$3k, which is better purchase (from B&S section)?
1) 20D + 17-40 f/4L

2) 10D + 17-40 f/4L + 70-200 f/4L

Be it I don't need the following features from 20D:
- fast start up time
- high usable ISO (>800) can compensate with neat image.
- high fps rate
- larger buffer (usually I use AF-Single)
- 8 mp

Is there any significant Image quality gain from 20D over 10D if using above f/4L lenses?

Need your experience tips

Thanks much.

[JediForce4ever]

Originally Posted by wolf_agent Say with a budget of S$3k, which is better purchase (from B&S section)? 1) 20D + 17-40 f/4L 2) 10D + 17-40 f/4L + 70-200 f/4L Be it I don't need the following features from 20D: - fast start up time - high usable ISO (>800) can compensate with neat image. - high fps rate - larger buffer (usually I use AF-Single) - 8 mp Is there any significant Image quality gain from 20D over 10D if using above f/4L lenses? Need your experience tips Thanks much.

If you can wait a little while longer...i would go for the first one and add the 70-200mmf4L...all second hand.

[Stoned]

Originally Posted by wolf_agent Be it I don't need the following features from 20D: - fast start up time - high usable ISO (>800) can compensate with neat image. - high fps rate - larger buffer (usually I use AF-Single) - 8 mp

In light of this, I'd say get the 10D. May it serve you well. Just wait a little while before buying, it's rumoured that Canon is about the release another 20D replacement, which will push the price of both bodies down further. You may possibly be able to get a 20D plus those two lenses for under 3500 pretty soon. Doesn't hurt to wait a while more doesn't it? Anyway, 10D prices will probably dip under 1000 if that happens, so why not wait?

[user111]

to save spendings, use EF-s lens for wide angle.
the 18-55 is available for $100 used. versus $1000+ for the 17-40L

[JediForce4ever]

Originally Posted by user111 to save spendings, use EF-s lens for wide angle. the 18-55 is available for $100 used. versus $1000+ for the 17-40L

18-55mm= 17-40mmf4L/10
100= 1000/10
color of 18-55=17-40 color/10

[EUGSEOW]

What about a 350D instead of 10D if you have budget constraint?
What I experience on 10D is its really a slow (on almost every aspect) body!

Originally Posted by wolf_agent Say with a budget of S$3k, which is better purchase (from B&S section)? 1) 20D + 17-40 f/4L 2) 10D + 17-40 f/4L + 70-200 f/4L Be it I don't need the following features from 20D: - fast start up time - high usable ISO (>800) can compensate with neat image. - high fps rate - larger buffer (usually I use AF-Single) - 8 mp Is there any significant Image quality gain from 20D over 10D if using above f/4L lenses? Need your experience tips Thanks much.

[EUGSEOW]

There is no rumour but there is always a better model superceding the existing model in Canon's product portfolio roadmap. This is just business!

Originally Posted by Stoned it's rumoured that Canon is about the release another 20D replacement

[user111]

no more rumour. 35d is on the way i am getting mine after 2006

[AReality]

Given your budget, get 2nd option.

The 20D's AF is significantly better though...


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[gernie]

let say, if u can make a lot of photos , then go for option 2.. or u want to own something and not yet ready to shoot much ... go for option 1..

[wolf_agent]

my application mainly family photos and sometimes landscape, nature.

Currently own D70, but somehow still attracted by Canon's L color / image quality. That's one of the factor why coming C camp.

From the reply above, seems opt2 is a better purchase. What if:

opt3 10D + 24-105 f/4L IS USM ?

Thanks all for your kind input, I'll try to wait a little longer and see how the situation.

[wolf_agent]

Originally Posted by EUGSEOW What about a 350D instead of 10D if you have budget constraint? What I experience on 10D is its really a slow (on almost every aspect) body!

350D? hmm, I don't really like the way changing metering/AF/WB mode design in 350D and lastly its body finish.

[alee13]

Originally Posted by wolf_agent opt3 10D + 24-105 f/4L IS USM ? Thanks all for your kind input, I'll try to wait a little longer and see how the situation.

For the price of 24-105 f4, u could have bought both 17-40 and 70-200 f4 .. and the latter will cover almost all your focal needs if coupled with a good flash. The IS isn't very necessary ..esp if you are on a budget. You may find 17-40 not wide enough, try ef-s 10-22, its an L lens optical construction but didn't get an L because of body build. 70-200 f4 is very hard to use indoors or overcast conditions. 24-105 can still get away in indoor conditions using low shutter speeds and high ISO (no flash) with IS.

[EiRiK]

Originally Posted by wolf_agent Say with a budget of S$3k, which is better purchase (from B&S section)? 1) 20D + 17-40 f/4L 2) 10D + 17-40 f/4L + 70-200 f/4L Be it I don't need the following features from 20D: - fast start up time - high usable ISO (>800) can compensate with neat image. - high fps rate - larger buffer (usually I use AF-Single) - 8 mp Is there any significant Image quality gain from 20D over 10D if using above f/4L lenses? Need your experience tips Thanks much.

go for 2) if u buying now.
since u dont need any of the things u stated (anyway, 20D is not much better than 10D at >800)
if not buying now, wait for 20D replacement.

[buckwheat]

you have answered your own question... you don't need the additional features of the 20D... 10D is more than sufficient and you get a fantastic zoom lens as well.

no brainer!

I had the exact same decision and the 10D is a great cam.

[mpenza]

Since u dun need the features of 20D, go for option (2) - 10D + 17-40 f/4L + 70-200 f/4L

[roti_prata]

the bigger buffer is to support more bursts.

dont be so sure tt u wont want the high iso and 5fps. if u shoot any sports at all u'll desire 8.5fps like me.

i dont see why u'll choose the 10d over the 350d(except for price maybe) as the 350d wins in all aspects.

the 18-55 is in a different league with the 17-40.

u can consider the sigma 70-200 or tokina 80-200(cheaper thn sigma) instead

[wolf_agent]

So, the color, saturation, constrast straight out from both 20D, 10D will have no significant difference?

Ya, so far over my 2 years shooting style, I don't have any shot on sport related picture. Mainly indoor shooting my kids, outdoor landscape and sometimes nature/ butterfly/ dragonfly. I'm thinking I can settle with 70-200 f/4L + an ext. tube for such requirement.

As for why I don't choose 350D over 10D is mainly 350D body built, size, layout, single dial.

anyway, now very hard to see 10D out on sales

[Electrin]

Originally Posted by wolf_agent So, the color, saturation, constrast straight out from both 20D, 10D will have no significant difference? Ya, so far over my 2 years shooting style, I don't have any shot on sport related picture. Mainly indoor shooting my kids, outdoor landscape and sometimes nature/ butterfly/ dragonfly. I'm thinking I can settle with 70-200 f/4L + an ext. tube for such requirement.

I had the 17-40f4 and 70-200f4 setup. Sold the 70-200 and got a 135/2 instead as indoor shots with the zoom was a little bit difficult. The 135 hasn't disappointed.