slide shot

klsss · 16th November 2002

do i need to stepdown 1 stop for outdoor slide shot n wat about slide shot filter ?

any advice ?

Bean · 16th November 2002

You step down 1/3 to 1 stop for slides if you want the colours to saturate.

ckiang · 16th November 2002

Shoot as per normal to be safe. If you need to/want to, shoot 1 frame normally, 1 frame 1/3 stop underexposed to increase saturation. Don't bother about filters at this stage.

Regards
CK

erwinx · 16th November 2002

doesn't underexposing by 1/3 shot give problems to consumer slide scanners?

jasonpgc · 17th November 2002

Rather than just giving you the answer "No", I think the most important thing is understanding the behaviour of your choosen slide film under difference exposure setting, Then meter the scene to make the slide appear as what you see in your mind.

There is no point talking about pre under or over exposing a scene if you always use "Evaluation Mode", the result always vary in difference lighting and sometimes you won't even understand why such exposure values are choosen by your camera.

On the other hand, there is no need to pre under or overexposing a scene if you know exactly what you are doing in "Manual Mode", you can adjust the exposure to shoot a Low key or Hi key picture depending on your need

roti · 17th November 2002

i always under 1/2 stop, just nice ,over 1/2 stop and over 1 stop..........never miss one........

jasphotography · 19th November 2002

Something to take note in taking positive film (slides) as compared to negative film:

When using slide film, the "rule-of-thumb" is to expose for the highlight (when using spot or center-weighted metering) and let the mid-tone/shadow to take care of its own.

It works the other way round when using negative film.

19th November 2002

I would agree with jasonpgc.

In any form of photography, the rule is there is no rule. Just like any art form, different exposure tell different stories.

Depending on how you want your picture to turn out, you can set any settings, as long as you capture the mood you want.

I learnt it from the hard way... under exposing all my slides in Tibet after an advice given by my father (go down half a stop or under-expose a little) who has over 35 years of photo taking experience. The end results was grey sky, dull colour... and black faces... Not that my dad is not right, but different people has different photography style. It is hard to set a rule for anyone to follow. Especially style is not something that you can cut & paste.

Forget about filters (like what ckiang has said), shoot as per normal, capture different colours and shades and experiment with contrast. Slide works best for high contrast pictures...

Good luck!

16th November 2002	#1
klsss Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USA ( upper serangoon area) Posts: 204	slide shot do i need to stepdown 1 stop for outdoor slide shot n wat about slide shot filter ? any advice ?

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jasonpgc Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 487	Rather than just giving you the answer "No", I think the most important thing is understanding the behaviour of your choosen slide film under difference exposure setting, Then meter the scene to make the slide appear as what you see in your mind. There is no point talking about pre under or over exposing a scene if you always use "Evaluation Mode", the result always vary in difference lighting and sometimes you won't even understand why such exposure values are choosen by your camera. On the other hand, there is no need to pre under or overexposing a scene if you know exactly what you are doing in "Manual Mode", you can adjust the exposure to shoot a Low key or Hi key picture depending on your need Last edited by jasonpgc; 17th November 2002 at 11:07 PM.

19th November 2002	#8
hocf Guests Posts: n/a	I would agree with jasonpgc. In any form of photography, the rule is there is no rule. Just like any art form, different exposure tell different stories. Depending on how you want your picture to turn out, you can set any settings, as long as you capture the mood you want. I learnt it from the hard way... under exposing all my slides in Tibet after an advice given by my father (go down half a stop or under-expose a little) who has over 35 years of photo taking experience. The end results was grey sky, dull colour... and black faces... Not that my dad is not right, but different people has different photography style. It is hard to set a rule for anyone to follow. Especially style is not something that you can cut & paste. Forget about filters (like what ckiang has said), shoot as per normal, capture different colours and shades and experiment with contrast. Slide works best for high contrast pictures... Good luck! Last edited by hocf; 19th November 2002 at 02:39 AM.

16th November 2002	#2
Bean Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 855	You step down 1/3 to 1 stop for slides if you want the colours to saturate.

16th November 2002	#3
ckiang Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 6,597	Shoot as per normal to be safe. If you need to/want to, shoot 1 frame normally, 1 frame 1/3 stop underexposed to increase saturation. Don't bother about filters at this stage. Regards CK

16th November 2002	#4
erwinx Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,492	doesn't underexposing by 1/3 shot give problems to consumer slide scanners?

17th November 2002	#6
roti Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sgp/China/TW Posts: 743	i always under 1/2 stop, just nice ,over 1/2 stop and over 1 stop..........never miss one........

19th November 2002	#7
jasphotography Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,362	Something to take note in taking positive film (slides) as compared to negative film: When using slide film, the "rule-of-thumb" is to expose for the highlight (when using spot or center-weighted metering) and let the mid-tone/shadow to take care of its own. It works the other way round when using negative film.