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  • StoFen Omnibounce

    194 32.77%
  • Lumiquest Pocket Bouncer

    13 2.20%
  • Lumiquest 80/20

    7 1.18%
  • 5x7" bounce card alone

    31 5.24%
  • 5x7" bounce card + ceiling

    116 19.59%
  • The built-in bounce card on the flash alone

    14 2.36%
  • The built-in bounce card on the flash + ceiling

    52 8.78%
  • Others

    93 15.71%
  • None, direct flash is so much better

    13 2.20%
  • None, don't use flash

    59 9.97%
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    Quote Originally Posted by hkh1705 View Post
    Straight means straight up to ceiling or straight at the subject?
    Haha yeah I oso seldom hear pple using the word straight...

    Its either direct or bounce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Hokage View Post
    how about gary fong lightspere saw the website and all very impressed?
    Everyone can impress anyone with a well designed webbie... But at such cost and such a bulky item... I do wonder how many actually bring it everywhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmodel View Post
    Haha yeah I oso seldom hear pple using the word straight...

    Its either direct or bounce.
    So which is which? straight is bounce or direct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Hokage View Post
    how about gary fong lightspere saw the website and all very impressed?
    It's . I have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yehosaphat View Post
    So which is which? straight is bounce or direct?
    More often used to describe direct flash...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeryltan View Post
    For Stofen Omnibounch users.. Have a question..

    It says on the packaging that the flash should be used at 45deg angle whenever possible.. So my question is, if the ceiling is too high and not possible to bouch off the ceiling, and there are no walls on either side.. Should I still use 45deg flash angle or should I shoot straight?
    oh..i meant shoot.. 'direct', wif the stofen.. my flash is always at the 45 degree angle wif my stofen on..

    i think the guy in the atrium as described earlier, wasnt trying to bounce off the ceiling.. i think he's juz trying to prevent harsh flashes..so he's doing the pointing up, wif the stofen on.. maybe 45 degrees will do too.. which in both instances, wld be the correct way..

    can the experts correct me if i'm wrong..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Hokage View Post
    how about gary fong lightspere saw the website and all very impressed?
    Is pretty good when the ceiling is low... otherwise u are also shooting at full flash strength and very little light actually reaches the subject if u are too far away... the magic in flash photography is a large light source (bounce flash, flash cards, etc) plus the right subject distance... and that's very hard to control... u need to test shoot... but if the scene keeps changing... it's even tougher... just like getting candid shots well balanced... very difficult...

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    If you shoot straight with the wide angle adapter on(14mm), is the flash diffused?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henessy View Post
    If you shoot straight with the wide angle adapter on(14mm), is the flash diffused?
    Not really... u're just cutting the power down the middle of the light cone... the diffuser works to even out the light spread... u can try shooting at 17mm or wider with and without the diffuser... the difference is quite obvious. But I prefer to bounce once I go to 17mm and wider.

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    Where can one buy the 'Lumiquest Pocket Bouncer' ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by StreetShooter View Post
    I used a Kodak grey card to make a bounce card (white side). Does double duty if I happen to need a grey card for custom white balance as well. And very stiff.

    Ah, but how do you do custom white balance with flash? a smart aleck asks...

    Answer is that if I am using flash, AWB does the trick 99.99% of the time.

    I am a total flop to CWB, but why use a grey card to custom WB,??? Will u get a grey WB ??? Isnt to use a white card for WB ? pardon me if I am wrong ... pls correct me pls

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    Quote Originally Posted by yumyum View Post
    I am a total flop to CWB, but why use a grey card to custom WB,??? Will u get a grey WB ??? Isnt to use a white card for WB ? pardon me if I am wrong ... pls correct me pls
    White Balancing normally bases it's readings on the 18% grey assupmtion. It will try to get the subject to be neutral at 18% grey. Of coz, this is only a guideline as there are other conditions which may make it different.
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    THink this thread has been around for too long that some of the latest device is not in there.

    Anyway, I used to DIY a white bounce card measuring 30cm x 30cm. Been using it for a while and lately, decide to get the Flip It Jumbo Pro during the M.O.

    I'm pretty impressed by the results of the Flip It Jumbo Pro. I've not used the GFLS so I'm unable to make a direct comparison on it. Nevertheless, I've heard from alot of photographers that the GFLS tends to drop off easily but I have yet face this problem with the Flip It Jumbo Pro.

    I believed the LS consumes more battery power due to the dome while the Flip-It acts like a bounce card except that it has a front diffuser and thus, is more battery friendly.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmodel View Post
    THink this thread has been around for too long that some of the latest device is not in there.

    Anyway, I used to DIY a white bounce card measuring 30cm x 30cm. Been using it for a while and lately, decide to get the Flip It Jumbo Pro during the M.O.

    I'm pretty impressed by the results of the Flip It Jumbo Pro. I've not used the GFLS so I'm unable to make a direct comparison on it. Nevertheless, I've heard from alot of photographers that the GFLS tends to drop off easily but I have yet face this problem with the Flip It Jumbo Pro.

    I believed the LS consumes more battery power due to the dome while the Flip-It acts like a bounce card except that it has a front diffuser and thus, is more battery friendly.

    Cheers
    But flexibility?? You'd have to turn the diffuser, flex the bounce card and such right?

    This is something which turned me off from this Flip It design... for the lazy me, I'd rather use a Omni-bounce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zac08 View Post
    But flexibility?? You'd have to turn the diffuser, flex the bounce card and such right?

    This is something which turned me off from this Flip It design... for the lazy me, I'd rather use a Omni-bounce.
    Not exactly. Depending on the location you are in.

    For a AD wedding I took last week, I only set it once during the day and once during the dinner. I think the omni bounce doesnt throw light as far away, especially for a big hall. I find my bounce card more cumbersome because I can only shoot in landscape and its a hassle to remove and adjust for portrait shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmodel View Post
    Not exactly. Depending on the location you are in.

    For a AD wedding I took last week, I only set it once during the day and once during the dinner. I think the omni bounce doesnt throw light as far away, especially for a big hall. I find my bounce card more cumbersome because I can only shoot in landscape and its a hassle to remove and adjust for portrait shoot.
    Same setting for portrait and landscape??
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    Quote Originally Posted by zac08 View Post
    Same setting for portrait and landscape??
    Yupz not require to touch the flip it when switching between portrait or landscape. Just need to turn the flash.

    You'll need to turn the flash when using the omni bounce or diffuser as well.

    This is how it looks when taking in landscsape. Note that the flip it card is on the shorter side of the flash.


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    Hi Guys,

    I saw some who use a plastic like white card using velco. Any idea where can I get this?

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    Default Re: The best bounce device is....

    Quote Originally Posted by shark View Post
    Hi Guys,

    I saw some who use a plastic like white card using velco. Any idea where can I get this?
    You mean this :



    Get it here :

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