The best bounce device is....

ckiang · 16th November 2002

Zoomer · 16th November 2002

StoFen Omnibounce + 5x7" bounce card + ceiling ?

denizenx · 16th November 2002

not a PA holding anything? newspaper cardboard styrofoam etc?

denizenx · 16th November 2002

PA with white tshirt!

mpenza · 16th November 2002

how about wearing a big white hat to bounce the flash?

denizenx · 16th November 2002

I thought of buying a reg children white umbrella... $2 only!

Darren · 16th November 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by ckiang
The best bounce device is....

1. Pogo Stick.
2. Those rubber balls with two handles that you sit on and boing your way around trying to look cool, but fall off after two hops.

mervlam · 16th November 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren

1. Pogo Stick.
2. Those rubber balls with two handles that you sit on and boing your way around trying to look cool, but fall off after two hops.

/slaps forehead. Lolx

SniperD · 16th November 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren

1. Pogo Stick.
2. Those rubber balls with two handles that you sit on and boing your way around trying to look cool, but fall off after two hops.

*falls off chair laughing....*

song · 18th November 2002

where to buy bounce card??

Please enlighten

song

denizenx · 18th November 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren

1. Pogo Stick.
2. Those rubber balls with two handles that you sit on and boing your way around trying to look cool, but fall off after two hops.

not trampoline meh.... hehe

and emailing to bill.gates.sucks@microsoft.com

liuhao · 20th April 2003

clive · 20th April 2003

Song, bounce card can make your own, best if u laminate it. any size/ shape/ modification as u fancy.

StreetShooter · 21st April 2003

I used a Kodak grey card to make a bounce card (white side). Does double duty if I happen to need a grey card for custom white balance as well. And very stiff.

Ah, but how do you do custom white balance with flash? a smart aleck asks...

Answer is that if I am using flash, AWB does the trick 99.99% of the time.

Zerstorer · 21st April 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by StreetShooter

Answer is that if I am using flash, AWB does the trick 99.99% of the time.

Depends greatly on the flash+camera combo. Some flashes have a warmer colour temp and taking flash shots without setting a flash white balance often results in a yellow/orange cast that is rather irritating to remove later....

reflecx · 21st April 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by StreetShooter
Ah, but how do you do custom white balance with flash? a smart aleck asks...

Answer is that if I am using flash, AWB does the trick 99.99% of the time.

On my camera (Fuji S602), if you use AWB with an external flash, you will get a yellow cast. I need to use a custom white balance to remove the cast.

The camera uses whatever settings it is on to get the white balance eg. if the camera is set to use external flash, manual exposure 1/125s F2.8, it will use this setting to get the custom white balance reading.

Larry · 21st April 2003

the beef balls at the stall near my house. i swear they can bounce off walls and ceilings.

/me hides from flames

ok ok serious now... i've used a variety of bounce devices in my quest to achieve the best softening effect, including the Sto-fen Omni bounce, Lumiquest pocket bouncers, home-made bounce cards and they all suit different lighting situations.

for example, if it's a outdoor event or indoor with very high ceilings (like a church wedding), i'd opt for the Lumiquest (no need to bounce off ceilings), but if it's indoors with low ceiling, the Omni-bounce gives good coverage.

my current fave now is a plastic Metz bounce card (i adapted it to fit my SB-28/80DX). what i like about it is i can use it to shoot portraits as well (a bit hard to explain - bend the flash head 90 degrees to the right and stick the bounce to the side of it).

Ian · 21st April 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by ckiang
The best bounce device is....

A waterbed and buxom wench

Now on a more serious note.

I prefer ceilings, or failing that an old sieglite 16" flash mounted brolly, 5.7" card or a lumiquest 80/20.

lualua · 21st April 2003

With a powerful flash, i prefer ceilings and esp corners of the wall, where the light bounch evenly all over the place, giving nice, clean lighting. So my flash duun always point up, sometimes, you;ll see it pointing backwards..

I use 5X7 and A4 size white cards as well, the bigger the better, never use the plastic cap that goes over the flash, its still a small point source.

ckiang · 21st April 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by lualua
With a powerful flash, i prefer ceilings and esp corners of the wall, where the light bounch evenly all over the place, giving nice, clean lighting. So my flash duun always point up, sometimes, you;ll see it pointing backwards..

I use 5X7 and A4 size white cards as well, the bigger the better, never use the plastic cap that goes over the flash, its still a small point source.

Whether Nikon or Sto-Fen, these omnibounce devices doesn't work well for me. Being still a point source, the light is still harsh.

Regards
CK

View Poll Results: The best bounce device is....
StoFen Omnibounce	194	32.77%
Lumiquest Pocket Bouncer	13	2.20%
Lumiquest 80/20	7	1.18%
5x7" bounce card alone	31	5.24%
5x7" bounce card + ceiling	116	19.59%
The built-in bounce card on the flash alone	14	2.36%
The built-in bounce card on the flash + ceiling	52	8.78%
Others	93	15.71%
None, direct flash is so much better	13	2.20%
None, don't use flash	59	9.97%
Voters: 592. You may not vote on this poll

16th November 2002	#1
ckiang Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 6,597	The best bounce device is.... The best bounce device is....

16th November 2002	#3
denizenx Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: L2TPYSG Posts: 4,514	not a PA holding anything? newspaper cardboard styrofoam etc? __________________ "I'm... dreaming... of a wide... angle~ Just like the ones I used to know~"

16th November 2002	#4
denizenx Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: L2TPYSG Posts: 4,514	PA with white tshirt! __________________ "I'm... dreaming... of a wide... angle~ Just like the ones I used to know~"

16th November 2002	#6
denizenx Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: L2TPYSG Posts: 4,514	I thought of buying a reg children white umbrella... $2 only! __________________ "I'm... dreaming... of a wide... angle~ Just like the ones I used to know~"

16th November 2002	#2
Zoomer Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 708	StoFen Omnibounce + 5x7" bounce card + ceiling ?

16th November 2002	#5
mpenza Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,397	how about wearing a big white hat to bounce the flash?

18th November 2002	#10
song Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 400	where to buy bounce card?? Please enlighten song

20th April 2003	#12
liuhao Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: cck, Singapore Posts: 309	wall

20th April 2003	#13
clive Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,573	Song, bounce card can make your own, best if u laminate it. any size/ shape/ modification as u fancy.

21st April 2003	#14
StreetShooter Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Katong Posts: 4,702	I used a Kodak grey card to make a bounce card (white side). Does double duty if I happen to need a grey card for custom white balance as well. And very stiff. Ah, but how do you do custom white balance with flash? a smart aleck asks... Answer is that if I am using flash, AWB does the trick 99.99% of the time.

21st April 2003	#17
Larry Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: singapore Posts: 6,097	the beef balls at the stall near my house. i swear they can bounce off walls and ceilings. /me hides from flames ok ok serious now... i've used a variety of bounce devices in my quest to achieve the best softening effect, including the Sto-fen Omni bounce, Lumiquest pocket bouncers, home-made bounce cards and they all suit different lighting situations. for example, if it's a outdoor event or indoor with very high ceilings (like a church wedding), i'd opt for the Lumiquest (no need to bounce off ceilings), but if it's indoors with low ceiling, the Omni-bounce gives good coverage. my current fave now is a plastic Metz bounce card (i adapted it to fit my SB-28/80DX). what i like about it is i can use it to shoot portraits as well (a bit hard to explain - bend the flash head 90 degrees to the right and stick the bounce to the side of it).

21st April 2003	#19
lualua Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: underneath singapore Posts: 130	With a powerful flash, i prefer ceilings and esp corners of the wall, where the light bounch evenly all over the place, giving nice, clean lighting. So my flash duun always point up, sometimes, you;ll see it pointing backwards.. I use 5X7 and A4 size white cards as well, the bigger the better, never use the plastic cap that goes over the flash, its still a small point source.