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    Default Re: Does the equiment you use determine if you are a newbie?

    Sekali over enthusiastic newbie get DSLR as his first camera how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redstone
    Sekali over enthusiastic newbie get DSLR as his first camera how?
    Sekali what?

    What is the problem?

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    Default Re: Does the equiment you use determine if you are a newbie?

    Quote Originally Posted by redstone
    Sekali over enthusiastic newbie get DSLR as his first camera how?
    He would have the latest imaging technology at his finger tips and a fast track to be among the top in the profession.


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    Default Re: Does the equiment you use determine if you are a newbie?

    Quote Originally Posted by redstone
    Sekali over enthusiastic newbie get DSLR as his first camera how?
    [sekali what?] from me also

    so many of them are here already, been there and done that, don't you ever see so many "interesting" posts lately?

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    Default Re: Does the equiment you use determine if you are a newbie?

    Sigh... and I thought one day if I own the D2X I would be a pro

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    Default Re: Does the equiment you use determine if you are a newbie?

    Quote Originally Posted by redstone
    Sekali over enthusiastic newbie get DSLR as his first camera how?
    Nothing wrong with that... It is risky in that it may be wasted money if a newcomer finds out that (s)he doesn't want to pursue photography further. On the other hand, if (s)he continues, the system can grow with him/her.

    It really boils down to how much expendable income you have to play with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by espn
    Sigh... and I thought one day if I own the D2X I would be a pro
    try large format

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    Whoaa hot topic ahh .. must b due to tis ad i saw a few days ago here in CS askin for a photographer but specifically sayin those with 300D, 350D shdnt bother to apply.

    Frankly speaking, some people has such a narrow view on wat is good pitures. Can't blame him cuz maybe he feels equipment alone makes the picture. Maybe he's one of those.

    Y shd we b bothered by such remarks. It's a free world, to each his own.

    As long u noe wat ur equipment can do and how to achieve the best fm it, hey u'r already a big time winner. It's the person who chooses to tink otherwise is the big loser.

    So chill out n dont worry too much wat people has to say. Tis kinda debate will never end

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    Default Re: Does the equiment you use determine if you are a newbie?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdyH
    Whoaa hot topic ahh .. must b due to tis ad i saw a few days ago here in CS askin for a photographer but specifically sayin those with 300D, 350D shdnt bother to apply.

    Frankly speaking, some people has such a narrow view on wat is good pitures. Can't blame him cuz maybe he feels equipment alone makes the picture. Maybe he's one of those.

    Y shd we b bothered by such remarks. It's a free world, to each his own.

    As long u noe wat ur equipment can do and how to achieve the best fm it, hey u'r already a big time winner. It's the person who chooses to tink otherwise is the big loser.

    So chill out n dont worry too much wat people has to say. Tis kinda debate will never end
    Why bring theITguy's thread here?

    I find that it is perfectly fine for anyone making requirement for this kind of posting.

    First, if you looking for someone to do something for you, don't you have some kind of expectations on the success candidate?
    Second, did he mention that he want free service only?

    If you think you are capable enough and interest to do it, give him a PM.

    In my view, nobody is asking for too much, unless he or she is not paying enough.

    So please, lighten up.

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    Smile Re: Does the equiment you use determine if you are a newbie?

    I totally agree with Adyh on the usage of camera equipment.
    I am a professional for over 30 yrs using 35mm format to 120 format, now i switch to digital
    and i use a humble Canon power shots A400 3.2 m to do all my food photography. It turns
    out as good as my medium format Mamiya 6x7, with digital print-out up to A1 size poster.
    I believe its the person behind the camera and not the camera in front of him.

    My way with my humble camera.

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    Default Re: Does the equiment you use determine if you are a newbie?

    Quote Originally Posted by clarinet
    Recently heard somewhere that a equiment determine if the photographer is a newbie or not. For example, entry level DSLR like 300D, 350D and D50 are use only by newbie.... Just want to see how many hold this view.

    Cheer
    Where did you get this idea from? Please sent us the link.

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    Default Re: Does the equiment you use determine if you are a newbie?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pro Image
    Where did you get this idea from? Please sent us the link.
    It a personal encounter. Not an online encounter
    Quote Originally Posted by AdyH
    Whoaa hot topic ahh .. must b due to tis ad i saw a few days ago here in CS askin for a photographer but specifically sayin those with 300D, 350D shdnt bother to apply.

    Frankly speaking, some people has such a narrow view on wat is good pitures. Can't blame him cuz maybe he feels equipment alone makes the picture. Maybe he's one of those.

    Y shd we b bothered by such remarks. It's a free world, to each his own.

    As long u noe wat ur equipment can do and how to achieve the best fm it, hey u'r already a big time winner. It's the person who chooses to tink otherwise is the big loser.

    So chill out n dont worry too much wat people has to say. Tis kinda debate will never end
    Regarding this, he had come up with an explaination in post #43 le.
    Last edited by clarinet; 10th January 2006 at 06:06 PM.

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    Default Re: Do the equiment you use determine if you are newbie?

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleWolf
    Just because someone is new to the hobby doesn't mean s/he has no talent and/or no grasp of what they're doing. Not to flame you - I just think such formulations as above may give newcomers the impression that others look down on them.
    Well, not looking down on newbies. All of us have been thru the stage of a greenhorn. And are still greenhorns.

    I'm referring to newbies who think a "(D)SLR = Pro = I'm Pro" without a single tinge of humility in them.

    These ought to be shot.
    "Wonders of the Human Mind. Unfathomable to the highest degree."

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    Default Re: Do the equiment you use determine if you are newbie?

    Quote Originally Posted by jsbn
    Well, not looking down on newbies. All of us have been thru the stage of a greenhorn. And are still greenhorns.

    I'm referring to newbies who think a "(D)SLR = Pro = I'm Pro" without a single tinge of humility in them.

    These ought to be shot.
    Yes, everyone been through the greenhorn stage. But, one cannot said all those using entry level (D)SLR are greenhorn or no standard.

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    My answer for this question is, no - using a particular equipment DOES NOT label you as a newbie or a professional. Like what many mentioned in this thread, it's the brains behind the camera that matters most.

    People can still take gorgeous photos with a Holga.

    And there are also some people who has a 10mp camera but doesn't have the knowledge or worse, bother to go and read up and fully utilize the functions of the equipment. When I see people like that, my heart goes out to the camera(s) that they are using.

    For example some time ago, I read a CSnapper's thread about his experience with a wannabe and the thread was something about the modes, as in P was for Professional and A was for Amateur, etc. That thread really cracks me up.

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    Default Re: Does the equiment you use determine if you are a newbie?

    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights
    try large format
    PnS = Noob?
    D2X = Pro?
    Medium Format = Pro of Pro?
    Large Format = Pro of Pro of all Pros?
    "Wonders of the Human Mind. Unfathomable to the highest degree."

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    Default Re: Do the equiment you use determine if you are newbie?

    Quote Originally Posted by coolegg
    Then my next question is: how about P-mode? Some people say only newbie use P-mode, what is your view?
    I've seen pro use P-mode for their assignment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffhiew
    I've seen pro use P-mode for their assignment.
    It's a matter of preference. I'm fairly noob... and I shoot on only three modes... A-DEP, Manual and Aperture priority.

    Shooting in manual and aperture priority doesn't make me any pro... just happened that my preference of shots are DOF type... be it really shallow or A-DEP for wide DOF...

    Another way of putting it is my understanding of the portrait, auto, night portrait, macro is not exactly there yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbn
    PnS = Noob?
    D2X = Pro?
    Medium Format = Pro of Pro?
    Large Format = Pro of Pro of all Pros?
    Here's an equation i can think of.

    D2X = Pro = DSLR
    350D = DSLR

    Pns = Noob
    Ixus 400 = Noob

    I am 350D and Ixus 400 user... that makes me a professional noob...

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    I use a Yashica Mat TLR, a Nikon F3 and a Nikon N80, so am I a newbie?

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