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Old 17th December 2005   #1
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Default sigma apo ex HSM 70-200 2.8 vs 2 touch af-D 80-200 2.8

Im most intersetd in AF speed. BOth lenses seem to give really good images, but does the HSM sigma give me faster AF (i take alot of sports) cos the only next step for nikon lense is the VR expensive one anyobdy used both? thanks!

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AF-S 300 f/2.8VR
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AF-S 300 f/2.8VR
And at the same time get yourself a D2H
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And at the same time get yourself a D2H
No, get a D2X .....lagi better..........
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if you are going to take sports, the HSM and the AFS80-200 or AFS70-200VR would be your weapon of choice for this range. The HSM has the slight edge against the AFD, but not on the image quality. Value for money and speed wise, you should be looking at the 70-200 HSM. Also get yourself the AFS300/2.8 to complement the range. and the D2h for faster focussing and more mem cards and better monopod and.........
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Default Re: sigma apo ex HSM 70-200 2.8 vs 2 touch af-D 80-200 2.8

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if you are going to take sports, the HSM and the AFS80-200 or AFS70-200VR would be your weapon of choice for this range. The HSM has the slight edge against the AFD, but not on the image quality. Value for money and speed wise, you should be looking at the 70-200 HSM. Also get yourself the AFS300/2.8 to complement the range. and the D2h for faster focussing and more mem cards and better monopod and.........
hahaah yup the list indeed can go on and on and on!! i mean action shots nobody is looking at bokeh...will certainly be looking at the HSM...so HSM and AF-S same speed? anybody used both?

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Default Re: sigma apo ex HSM 70-200 2.8 vs 2 touch af-D 80-200 2.8

Me! Had a HSM before I changed to the AFS80-200. AF speed wise, I cant really tell the difference, but the AFS`s image quality had me kicking myself in the ass if my pics didnt come out well.
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Default Re: sigma apo ex HSM 70-200 2.8 vs 2 touch af-D 80-200 2.8

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Me! Had a HSM before I changed to the AFS80-200. AF speed wise, I cant really tell the difference, but the AFS`s image quality had me kicking myself in the ass if my pics didnt come out well.
Wow.. AF-S sia... can loan me?
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why? go and use your AFS600/4 lah, mine no power one. Dont come and suan me like that leh. I know I dun have 600/4 to use as my table legs leh.
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Default Re: sigma apo ex HSM 70-200 2.8 vs 2 touch af-D 80-200 2.8

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why? go and use your AFS600/4 lah, mine no power one. Dont come and suan me like that leh. I know I dun have 600/4 to use as my table legs leh.
My 600 f/4? I loan out liao. I only left with a 200-400VR, you want?
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Default Re: sigma apo ex HSM 70-200 2.8 vs 2 touch af-D 80-200 2.8

Owned both lenses and prefer the Sigma 70-200 over the 80-200 AF-D. (Note that it is the D and not S version) I think the threadstarter meant the AF-D rather than the AF-S, right??

If you want to compare HSM to AF-S....errr.... I think the AF-S win hands down...
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no prob, ship it over!
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Default Re: sigma apo ex HSM 70-200 2.8 vs 2 touch af-D 80-200 2.8

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no prob, ship it over!
Ok can, when you return me my spare D2X then you bring my 200-400VR over also lor.
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return? what? thought you left it for me as an early Christmas present!

any OT liao. Sorry
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Default Re: sigma apo ex HSM 70-200 2.8 vs 2 touch af-D 80-200 2.8

Originally Posted by arttl
Owned both lenses and prefer the Sigma 70-200 over the 80-200 AF-D. (Note that it is the D and not S version) I think the threadstarter meant the AF-D rather than the AF-S, right??

If you want to compare HSM to AF-S....errr.... I think the AF-S win hands down...
yup Af-d and HSM price diff $200... 1400-HSM, 1600- AF-d. so in terms of AF speed, AFd<HSM<AF-s.... right?
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Default Re: sigma apo ex HSM 70-200 2.8 vs 2 touch af-D 80-200 2.8

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return? what? thought you left it for me as an early Christmas present!

any OT liao. Sorry
Like that nevermind lor. You keep the D2X lor, don't think I need, just ordered my 5th set. I forgot where I left one set also, so just ordered a replacement la.
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Default Re: sigma apo ex HSM 70-200 2.8 vs 2 touch af-D 80-200 2.8

Both can get cheaper in the BnS forums. Remembered reachme2003 and someother guy wanting to sell their AFD for about 1.1k. HSM wise would be about 900-1k.
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Old 18th December 2005   #18
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Default Re: sigma apo ex HSM 70-200 2.8 vs 2 touch af-D 80-200 2.8

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Both can get cheaper in the BnS forums. Remembered reachme2003 and someother guy wanting to sell their AFD for about 1.1k. HSM wise would be about 900-1k.
yup roger that. I was refering to new prices.
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Default Re: sigma apo ex HSM 70-200 2.8 vs 2 touch af-D 80-200 2.8

Originally Posted by captnj
yup roger that. I was refering to new prices.
I had used AFD & HSM before. I just felt HSM AF faster than AFD.
If HSM come with 'Focus Limiter', it will be perfect but just my POV only..

New DG HSM can be get at around $1400 and AFD around $1600.
BTW, the HSM tripod collar can be removed if not use but AFD can't as it is built in.
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Default Re: sigma apo ex HSM 70-200 2.8 vs 2 touch af-D 80-200 2.8

For the Sigma, be prepared for the grey-out flaring if any strong light source gets near your lens field-of-view of 70mm for 135-format (not only at your current focal point, but at any focal point).

I used the sigma HSM and the Nikon AF-D. Value = Sigma. Speed = Sigma. Contrast = Nikon. Flare control = Nikon. Range = Sigma (for that extra 10mm wider). Refocus conveniece = Sigma (thanks to the HSM). I own the Sigma, AF-D was borrowed.
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