F11 Manual mode not fully manual right?

The Real Kal · 6th December 2005

Just bought a small little flash to go with my F11. But when I switched to manual mode I could not control BOTH the Aperture and Shutter speed at the same time.

The point was to set the aperture to F4 where quality would be good and increase the shutter speed by 2 stops to compensate for the flash. But I found out that in the manual mode u cant really do that as Both the Aperture and Shutter speed features become automated.

But u can adjust other stuff like Exposure compensation in auto.

But even when I decrease exposure compensation by 2 stops, the speed does not increase and the aperture does not increase either!

Can anyone tell me a solution to use the F11 in Full Manual mode?

Thanks

ultrazoom · 6th December 2005

It's definitely not a fully manual DC.

Somehow, when taking indoors/night portrait shots, I notice that the best result is from the Night Mode with Slow Flash at ISO 400.

Something I don't understand is that, with Night Mode at a certain Aperture/Shutter Speed/ISO, the results are way better than AP/SP with same settings and flash mode.

michhy · 6th December 2005

Originally Posted by ultrazoom

Something I don't understand is that, with Night Mode at a certain Aperture/Shutter Speed/ISO, the results are way better than AP/SP with same settings and flash mode.

It might have something to do with the in-camera processing

megascriler · 7th December 2005

It just allows you to choose between aperture or the shutter in manual mode? Then it wouldn't make any difference from Ap or Sp right?

The Real Kal · 7th December 2005

I'm pretty sure with night mode (as what Michhy said) the in camera processing has adjusted the white balance. Try AP or SP with different white balances (can u do that?), then maybe u can get the desired result u want.

Quite sad. Dont have much time to play with my F11 as working long hours these few weeks! Sigh!

michhy · 7th December 2005

Originally Posted by The Real Kal

Quite sad. Dont have much time to play with my F11 as working long hours these few weeks! Sigh!

I'll be glad to help you with that. I'll babysit your F11

6th December 2005	#1
The Real Kal Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 209	F11 Manual mode not fully manual right? Just bought a small little flash to go with my F11. But when I switched to manual mode I could not control BOTH the Aperture and Shutter speed at the same time. The point was to set the aperture to F4 where quality would be good and increase the shutter speed by 2 stops to compensate for the flash. But I found out that in the manual mode u cant really do that as Both the Aperture and Shutter speed features become automated. But u can adjust other stuff like Exposure compensation in auto. But even when I decrease exposure compensation by 2 stops, the speed does not increase and the aperture does not increase either! Can anyone tell me a solution to use the F11 in Full Manual mode? Thanks

6th December 2005	#2
ultrazoom Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 552	Re: F11 Manual mode not fully manual right? It's definitely not a fully manual DC. Somehow, when taking indoors/night portrait shots, I notice that the best result is from the Night Mode with Slow Flash at ISO 400. Something I don't understand is that, with Night Mode at a certain Aperture/Shutter Speed/ISO, the results are way better than AP/SP with same settings and flash mode.

7th December 2005	#4
megascriler Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 385	Re: F11 Manual mode not fully manual right? It just allows you to choose between aperture or the shutter in manual mode? Then it wouldn't make any difference from Ap or Sp right?

7th December 2005	#5
The Real Kal Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 209	Re: F11 Manual mode not fully manual right? I'm pretty sure with night mode (as what Michhy said) the in camera processing has adjusted the white balance. Try AP or SP with different white balances (can u do that?), then maybe u can get the desired result u want. Quite sad. Dont have much time to play with my F11 as working long hours these few weeks! Sigh!