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    i'm sure anyone who discovered his/her kid is taking drugs will not be joining the 'outcry'
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    With all the outcries, bleeding hearts, minute of silence, bla , bla, bla............ Australians seemed to have have overlooked the fact that this individual was caught bringing more drugs into Aussie. That is just amazing isn't it?

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    If Singapore was Putfile's biggest customer base, do you think it would have banned users from Singapore? I'm particularly cynical since Putfile deleted the thread in its forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judeseah
    wow! u ask us to read up an article that's
    obviously written by some human-rights extremist.
    Excuse me, what do you mean? which article is that?

    Quote Originally Posted by judeseah
    what if i say i hv a 1st hand account of
    seeing the 'hanging rm'?

    maybe the sandbag for show-show only,
    or for the comfort of the walking dead,
    i don't know, n b4 u say,
    i don't care too.
    Then I presume you have not seen an actual hanging then? Well neither have I (and never intend to), but I believe the sandbag is for testing that the trapdoor works.

    Quote Originally Posted by judeseah
    anyone messes with drugs deserved wat he gets,
    in rewards or punishment.
    considering drug trafficing offence as non-violent by some,
    is out of this world to me.
    do u violence to create havoc?

    jude
    I don't understand where you get your misintepretation from. All i posted was the original putfile thread and 1 references regarding capital punishment in singapore and 1 reference on hanging. Have I even stated my stand in this issue? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit
    With all the outcries, bleeding hearts, minute of silence, bla , bla, bla............ Australians seemed to have have overlooked the fact that this individual was caught bringing more drugs into Aussie. That is just amazing isn't it?
    It is because Aussie's life worth more than others. An Aussie can take a plane and crash it into any tower or commit any other serious crimes and their PM will still campaign for him if he faces the death penalty.

    If Aussies got killed in bombings, those culprits must face the death penalty.

    What a hypocrtical bunch. I think the joke is on them.

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    is the australian elections coming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by afbug
    It is because Aussie's life worth more than others. ...
    What a hypocrtical bunch. I think the joke is on them.
    It strikes me as a bit hypocritical to generally condemn Aussies as hypocritical. I think the media had a field day making mountains out of molehills and whipped the mob in a frenzy. This can happen anywhere in the world, including Singapore. And if you look at the response around here, the reaction to knee-jerk Singapore bashing from overseas is frequently just as knee-jerk Aussie bashing.

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    Any Aussie in CS ? would really like to hear their POV . Anyway, not all aussie reacted extremely. Some are just lamers and jokers ...maybe some are junkies also. Maybe they just can't see the rationale behind the capital punishment.

    Actually, I really hope Singapore would release Mr Nyeun (did i get it wrong ?) if he's still alive..... so that he can bring his pot of gold and share with the thousand , if not millions of citizens that hailed him as national hero.

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    OK I also download other dvd test software dvdinfopro and got a similar message.

    "USE OF DVDINFOPRO IN THE COUNTRY OF SINGPORE
    DVDInfoPro may NOT be used, run or executed in the country of Singapore.
    Any company fully or partly owned by Singapore, any person living, residing
    or working in Singapore is hereby forbidden to use DVDInfoPro until further
    notice. Exceptions may be granted individually only upon request in writing
    or email."

    I posted and enquired abt it in the hardwarezone.

    Here's the thread:

    http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?t=1165755


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    Some of the comments here seem to ascribe all the various views on the subject of the death penalty to a country as a whole. Don't forget that Australia, like any society, is made up of a lot of different individuals and each one will have their own view (and Australians will voice out their view even if it's against what their government is saying).

    As with all complex issues, it's not such a clear cut answer as to what people believe in. Some will support the death penalty no matter what, others will oppose the death penalty as a general principle and you'll have people who fall somewhere in between (only under special circumstances etc etc)

    For this case of Nguyen, as someone has mentioned, there was a poll which showed 47% supported the hanging, 46% were against and 7% were undecided.

    Obviously you will get a different response to different situations (eg. a different crime etc), so saying that the views are hypocritcal don't really work as you are trying to attribute all the different views to a single entity.

    As an aside, I'd be interested to see the poll response if the crime was different, or if the individual who committed the crime was a white male, or it was a white female. Fairly certain the response will be different in each case.

    Also, putfile seems to be a UK company running it.

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    i wonder if they will burn all their creative sound cards and mp3 players

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    Also, I don't think Nguyen was hailed as a national hero. Don't believe all that you read in the newspapers or see on the news here. I don't believe everything I read/see in the ST or the NP or on ChannelNews Asia - just as I don't believe everything I read/see from other news outlets (of course I believe some can be more reliable than others)

    Most people would agree that he should be punished for his crime - but there were a fair number who believed that the punishment did not fit the crime. Equally there were a fair number who said he deserves what he gets.

    There were people who gave a moments silence, or put flowers out on his picture. Not because they saw him as a hero, but I guess because out of compassion and sadness from the loss of another life. But not everyone in Australia did this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleWolf
    It strikes me as a bit hypocritical to generally condemn Aussies as hypocritical. I think the media had a field day making mountains out of molehills and whipped the mob in a frenzy. This can happen anywhere in the world, including Singapore. And if you look at the response around here, the reaction to knee-jerk Singapore bashing from overseas is frequently just as knee-jerk Aussie bashing.
    Of cause not all aussies are like that. Almost halve of them tot differently (according to their media) but its their PM who said those words, so i reckon their PM represents their views/stand. Of cause the media plays a big part, if not, how on earth all these news get across in the 1st place? News=media.

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    Its a very confused world these days. These activist put so much value in murderes and drug trafickers lives because they value life. How ironic if these people were free and brought drug addiction, death to people who are really innocent. Are they still valuing life? Drug addicts will act in desperation, rob, steal and even murder to feed the addiction, traffic drugs in a vicious cycle to feed his own addiction. I beleive these people dont know much about drug addiction to begin with. Addicts are so desperate that they will steal their own parents jewelleries, tv radio, you name it to paw for the next shot. Have they the slightest clue what drugs can do?

    They call hangin murder? So is a police man issuing summons, extorting? Or police car chasing speeding offender sppeding? They are so mixed up with their value system that sometimes I wonder if they know what they are fighting for?

    Justice by its defintion is unyeilding and should be, to remain an effective deterent.
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    wonder why they put so much efforts on a guilty drug trafficker, rather than make use of the effort to improve poorer people life in their own country or the rest of the world?

    Does the drug trafficker citizen value more than other law biding citizen or other people? That puzzle me
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtwo
    I don't understand where you get your misintepretation from. All i posted was the original putfile thread and 1 references regarding capital punishment in singapore and 1 reference on hanging. Have I even stated my stand in this issue? No.
    if u read my post properly,
    wat i said was how SOME can consider
    drug trafficking as non-violent,
    therefore not deserving of the death sentence is beyond me.
    did i say its ur stand? NO!

    jude

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    Quote Originally Posted by judeseah
    if u read my post properly,
    wat i said was how SOME can consider
    drug trafficking as non-violent,
    therefore not deserving of the death sentence is beyond me.
    did i say its ur stand? NO!

    jude
    Through reading your previous post #58, you wrote I supposely 'ask all to read up an article that's obviously written by some human-rights extremist'. Then further down the same post I quote this line, "do u violence to create havoc?" If the word 'U' is not in reference to me, then kindly use 'they' to indicate 'SOME' in future similiar sentences. Although I have to say the sentence 'do u violence to create havoc' leaves a lot to be intepreted.

    And I am still wondering which is the article you find written by human-rights extremists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afbug
    Of cause not all aussies are like that. Almost halve of them tot differently (according to their media) but its their PM who said those words, so i reckon their PM represents their views/stand. Of cause the media plays a big part, if not, how on earth all these news get across in the 1st place? News=media.
    What words did Mr. Howard say? That an Aussie's life is worth more? I would be very surprised.

    Also, I think the poll you're implicitly referring to ("almost half of them") was not about hipocrisy, but the application of the death penalty in this case. While a lot of people object to the death penalty, I'm sure the vast majority nevertheless accepts the sovereignty of Singapore. There's nothing hypocritical or unethical about dissenting opinions (although a lot of S'poreans seem to think so - see the entire debate about self-censorship etc.). If we all agreed on everything, there would be nothing to discuss on any topic and Clubsnap would be very quiet .

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleWolf
    What words did Mr. Howard say? That an Aussie's life is worth more? I would be very surprised.

    Also, I think the poll you're implicitly referring to ("almost half of them") was not about hipocrisy, but the application of the death penalty in this case. While a lot of people object to the death penalty, I'm sure the vast majority nevertheless accepts the sovereignty of Singapore. There's nothing hypocritical or unethical about dissenting opinions (although a lot of S'poreans seem to think so - see the entire debate about self-censorship etc.). If we all agreed on everything, there would be nothing to discuss on any topic and Clubsnap would be very quiet .
    Ahh.....he said he feels strongly against and will campaign against the death penalty, but will not do so against US and China and only for Aussie facing the death penalty. Why? He says it will not work. He prob knows US and China dun give a damn. So? He dun have the resources and time or dun have the guts to take on the giants? What is he driving at? He can only campaign for aussie, and not for the rest of people facing the death penalty. Why? I dunno, maybe their life worth more? Oh yes, its me taking a stab at his comments if you haven realised.

    As for the hypocrsy, read the 1st post that you quote me. Regarding the bombings that Aussie suffered.

    You tell me, if they're against the death penalty, why did they want it for those culprits of the bali bombings? And yes, i've read all these from the media and papers. I simply haven got the resources to see and hear all of them for myself. And yes, its me taking a stab at those 'do not trust the media and them blowing things up comments'

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    I'm sure the vast majority nevertheless accepts the sovereignty of Singapore.
    How sure? Isn't this site that the thread was created trying to change our laws and method? How sure? Some of them are boycotting Singtel/opus, SIA and SG. I've read that the gound support even refuse to provide SIA gound services in some airports? Maybe the papers and media that i've been reading are kelong....

    Good evening. I am actually quite sick of all these discussions and their SG bashing already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afbug
    Good evening. I am actually quite sick of all these discussions and their SG bashing already.
    As long as you refer to "them" and bash "their" bashing, you're not any different from "them".

    I don't think the execution will damage ties between Australia and Singapore. The unreflected bashing of each other will.

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