Help!

catseye · 27th November 2005

Hi!

New with a DSLR and still playing with the 5D .... so all advice is appreciated.

Made a mess of my second use of the 5D at Big Boyz Toyz yesterday. I set the WB to Tungsten as I believe the lighting at that time is so. And this is what I got!

I hope it is not a problem with the camera but with the setting. Did not notice during review as the original blue screen protector was still on the LCD!

If it is a setting issue, any way to save it using post processing?

Thanks.

27th November 2005

Shoot in RAW then you can fix this afterwards.

UY79 · 27th November 2005

Here's the reason.

You used flash for the shot. The WB for flash is about 6800K. Tungsten WB on the other hand is 2800K, on the opposite side of the WB scale compared to flash. This is why you end up with a very cool (blue) photo.

I suggest you stick with AWB till you learn more about WB. Although AWB is not very accurate either but it's good enough, especially when using with flash or shooting outdoors.

If you can't figure which WB settings to use on location, you could shoot RAW as Phildate suggested, and correct it later. It also helps to eliminate any inconsistencies due to changes in lighting conditions.

catseye · 27th November 2005

Thanks Guys .... that explains why my first day shot using AWB is ok!

TME · 27th November 2005

U can do a custom WB on any grey/mid-tone wall. U will get colour corrected shots although I prefer a warmer look at these kind of shoots taking into consideration the type of lighting... a custom WB gives a very clinical white look...

spurssy · 27th November 2005

Originally Posted by catseye

If it is a setting issue, any way to save it using post processing?

Well, if you're using PS, you can add a a Curves adjustment layer, on the bottom right corner, click the white point button, and then click a point on the image where you feel is white. You can also use the black point for additional accuracy.

Take a look at the adjusted image:

White point set on her teeth (might not be the best as some pp do not have very white teeth).

For demostration sake, I didn't make it very white-balanced.. just to prove a point.

sulhan · 27th November 2005

Through some steps...you can try fix it...

here's one that i have tried...

rgds,
sulhan

jbma · 27th November 2005

My advise is like UY79. Use AWB and concentrate more on framing, exposure etc. One you get the hang of all that then you can move on to more complex stuff. You did say you are new to DSLR.

catseye · 27th November 2005

Brothers ....

Thanks for all the advice, tips and even the PS adjusted samples.

Yes, indeed I am new to a DSLR and was actually using the Big Boyz Toyz to familiarise with the cam as well as the many features.

Hope to continuously improve with all your expert advice.

Cheers!

eow · 27th November 2005

Try one myself

Drudkh · 27th November 2005

here's my try using paintshop pro x

zcf · 27th November 2005

Originally Posted by Drudkh

here's my try using paintshop pro x

I think this one best job among 4, how you did it in paintshop pro? White Balance selecting?

Drudkh · 27th November 2005

Originally Posted by zcf

I think this one best job among 4, how you did it in paintshop pro? White Balance selecting?

Paintshop Pro X has this new feature called Smart Photo Fix.
When you enter this feature, PSP will auto smart correct for you but its always crap. I resetted it and choose my own white balance. Basically, selecting the supposed to be white areas with the dropper on the left picture preview box. I selected the overexposed patch of the costume, her teeth and the white area of her eye. Next, I push the White bar until the arrow hits the histogram levels. Decrease a bit of shadow and that's it. But for this case, I also did a "1" point of the Clarify feature.

UY79 · 27th November 2005

Let me try.

Still feels abit unnatural.

Drudkh · 27th November 2005

Originally Posted by UY79

Let me try.

Still feels abit unnatural.

Wow, yours is pretty good!

TME · 27th November 2005

Spurssy's try is a bit cool. But as he said he did not try to completely whiten it.

Sulhan's has a tad of blue but is good.

Drudkh's attempt has the most natural colour

UY79's has the most punch but is a little oversharpened. But I feel it looks the most magazine like... that is very very good!

BTW, catseye, u got her at a very good angle and nice smile...

catseye · 28th November 2005

wow .... you guys sure are great, from what I thought was a throw-away shot, you can even make it "magazine-like".

thanks again for all the pointers.

hazta · 28th November 2005

Hope u dun mind... Here's my try

catseye · 28th November 2005

Originally Posted by hazta

Hope u dun mind... Here's my try

Of course not .... another great job

to cover my blunder!

In time need to learn from you gurus how to PS!.

Thanks.

dominator · 28th November 2005

Haha I imagine if the girl online here and see so many version of her photos

But good try of all different ps-ing skills by all gurus

27th November 2005	#1
catseye Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Posts: 683	Help! Hi! New with a DSLR and still playing with the 5D .... so all advice is appreciated. Made a mess of my second use of the 5D at Big Boyz Toyz yesterday. I set the WB to Tungsten as I believe the lighting at that time is so. And this is what I got! I hope it is not a problem with the camera but with the setting. Did not notice during review as the original blue screen protector was still on the LCD! If it is a setting issue, any way to save it using post processing? Thanks. __________________ A700 5D 16-80 50/1.7 28/2.8 28-75/2.8 Beercan 100-300 18-250 10-20 5600 http://esstoo.multiply.com/ Last edited by catseye; 27th November 2005 at 07:58 AM.

27th November 2005	#2
Phildate Guests Posts: n/a	Re: Help! Shoot in RAW then you can fix this afterwards.

27th November 2005	#3
UY79 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bedok Posts: 995	Re: Help! Here's the reason. You used flash for the shot. The WB for flash is about 6800K. Tungsten WB on the other hand is 2800K, on the opposite side of the WB scale compared to flash. This is why you end up with a very cool (blue) photo. I suggest you stick with AWB till you learn more about WB. Although AWB is not very accurate either but it's good enough, especially when using with flash or shooting outdoors. If you can't figure which WB settings to use on location, you could shoot RAW as Phildate suggested, and correct it later. It also helps to eliminate any inconsistencies due to changes in lighting conditions.

27th November 2005	#4
catseye Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Posts: 683	Re: Help! Thanks Guys .... that explains why my first day shot using AWB is ok! __________________ A700 5D 16-80 50/1.7 28/2.8 28-75/2.8 Beercan 100-300 18-250 10-20 5600 http://esstoo.multiply.com/

27th November 2005	#5
TME Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clementi Posts: 6,188	Re: Help! U can do a custom WB on any grey/mid-tone wall. U will get colour corrected shots although I prefer a warmer look at these kind of shoots taking into consideration the type of lighting... a custom WB gives a very clinical white look...

27th November 2005	#7
sulhan Advertiser Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 4,051	Re: Help! Through some steps...you can try fix it... here's one that i have tried... rgds, sulhan

27th November 2005	#8
jbma Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Tampines Posts: 3,315	Re: Help! My advise is like UY79. Use AWB and concentrate more on framing, exposure etc. One you get the hang of all that then you can move on to more complex stuff. You did say you are new to DSLR.

27th November 2005	#9
catseye Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Posts: 683	Re: Help! Brothers .... Thanks for all the advice, tips and even the PS adjusted samples. Yes, indeed I am new to a DSLR and was actually using the Big Boyz Toyz to familiarise with the cam as well as the many features. Hope to continuously improve with all your expert advice. Cheers! __________________ A700 5D 16-80 50/1.7 28/2.8 28-75/2.8 Beercan 100-300 18-250 10-20 5600 http://esstoo.multiply.com/

27th November 2005	#10
eow Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,498	Re: Help! Try one myself __________________ 头可断，血可流,倩女不可不追求 carpe diem,when in doubt, hoot first,apologise later:p GALLERY

27th November 2005	#11
Drudkh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,019	Re: Help! here's my try using paintshop pro x

27th November 2005	#14
UY79 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bedok Posts: 995	Re: Help! Let me try. Still feels abit unnatural.

27th November 2005	#16
TME Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clementi Posts: 6,188	Re: Help! Spurssy's try is a bit cool. But as he said he did not try to completely whiten it. Sulhan's has a tad of blue but is good. Drudkh's attempt has the most natural colour UY79's has the most punch but is a little oversharpened. But I feel it looks the most magazine like... that is very very good! BTW, catseye, u got her at a very good angle and nice smile... Last edited by TME; 27th November 2005 at 10:47 PM.

28th November 2005	#17
catseye Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Posts: 683	Re: Help! wow .... you guys sure are great, from what I thought was a throw-away shot, you can even make it "magazine-like". thanks again for all the pointers. __________________ A700 5D 16-80 50/1.7 28/2.8 28-75/2.8 Beercan 100-300 18-250 10-20 5600 http://esstoo.multiply.com/

28th November 2005	#18
hazta Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SG,Northern Posts: 1,025	Re: Help! Hope u dun mind... Here's my try

28th November 2005	#20
dominator Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Amazon Forest Posts: 1,623	Re: Help! Haha I imagine if the girl online here and see so many version of her photos But good try of all different ps-ing skills by all gurus __________________ Cleanse your thoughts, not by the foods you eat.