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    Quote Originally Posted by lkf73 View Post
    Minister mention that information on the cracked trains were not reported to public to avoid causing unnecessary fear to public.
    After the news was "mis-spun" by "mischievous hands" and got out, was there any panic in the street - despite cracked trains still in service?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    a good read indeed.

    however, someone may be naive enough to find it naive.

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    On the same page an interesting proposition:

    https://zitseng.com/archives/8790

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geAEAEC6dL8

    You may not be aware that all the trains in entire Japan shinkansen train systems run on a single track in one direction. All the trains travel at about the same speed. Depending on the a train station stops frequency, the following train with less station stops on the track will overtake the "stop" train at a scheduled station.

    This operation require well planned schedule and co-ordination. Any mess-up, up to 32 train carriages will be involved.

    Some examples of bullet runs from Tokyo to Shin-Osaka within a window of only 30 minutes (extracted from schedule booklet):

    You'll notice that the Nozomi (departing last) overtake the other Hikari & Kodama trains along the way;
    And the Hikari train will overtake the slower Kodama... and, mind you, all these trains run on the same track in the same direction

    From 0656hr to 0730hr 10 bullet trains will leave Tokyo for Shin-Osaka. One run every 3.4 minutes

    Kodama - dpt Tokyo 0656hr Arr Shin-Osaka 1100hr

    Hikari - dpt Tokyo 0703hr Arr Shin-Osaka 1003hr

    Nozomi - dpt Tokyo 0713hr Arr Shin-Osaka 0946hr

    Nozomi - dpt Tokyo 0720hr Arr Shin-Osaka 0953hr
    Last edited by shierwin; 14th July 2016 at 11:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shierwin View Post
    This operation require well planned schedule and co-ordination. Any mess-up, up to 32 train carriages will be involved.
    Ah... But they don't have track fault, signal fault, power fault or train fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    Ah... But they don't have track fault, signal fault, power fault or train fault.
    The key words are "preventive maintenance". And something that seem to be very alien to many here in SG: the pride in a job well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    Ah... But they don't have track fault, signal fault, power fault or train fault.
    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    The key words are "preventive maintenance". And something that seem to be very alien to many here in SG: the pride in a job well done.
    Exactly. Do note that the bullet trains run at high speed with time spacing of around 3-5 minutes between trains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    The key words are "preventive maintenance". And something that seem to be very alien to many here in SG: the pride in a job well done.
    Our keywords are: "cheaper, better, faster."

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    Our keywords are: "cheaper, better, faster."
    The magic triangle, you can only have two out three at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkf73 View Post
    Minister mention that information on the cracked trains were not reported to public to avoid causing unnecessary fear to public.

    Would you withhold bad news to your boss to avoid him being unnecessarily concern?!!!! What kind of attitude and reply is that?

    There are ways to communicate bad news without causing unnecessary fear. If not, can go back to school to learn.

    Also, it shows how the garmen is treating tax payers money. Remember the Brompton bike issue? Who is checking to make sure that all the contracts and tenders are properly managed?
    Ownself check ownself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    The magic triangle, you can only have two out three at the same time.
    Then almost always "cheaper" takes priority. So if you insist, then "cheaper, better" or "cheaper, faster". Only when it comes to pay of ministers then "cheaper" is off the table.

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    Then almost always "cheaper" takes priority. So if you insist, then "cheaper, better" or "cheaper, faster". Only when it comes to pay of ministers then "cheaper" is off the table.
    That's the main flaw in thinking, in my opinion, if 'cheaper' takes priority or is even considered equal to 'better'.
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    Default Re: Seven years to repair trains???

    Okay...where to buy trains maybe???
    Expand your mind or get left behind

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    Our keywords are: "cheaper, better, faster."
    There was another campaign called "PQR = Productivity, Quality and Reliability"

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    After the news was "mis-spun" by "mischievous hands" and got out, was there any panic in the street - despite cracked trains still in service?
    http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/...out-mrt-cracks

    While now local "mischievous hand" (?) also joining in the mis-spinning?

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    Default Re: Seven years to repair trains???

    Given how much spin there is going on, I think the best thing to do is to just sit on the sidelines and not get too involved. Life is too short...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    Then almost always "cheaper" takes priority. So if you insist, then "cheaper, better" or "cheaper, faster". Only when it comes to pay of ministers then "cheaper" is off the table.
    i like this!
    well said

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    Then almost always "cheaper" takes priority. So if you insist, then "cheaper, better" or "cheaper, faster". Only when it comes to pay of ministers then "cheaper" is off the table.
    "All good things come with a price" remember?

    you hv been forewarned.

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