How many Nikon F4 user over here?

[extreme2]

DieHard Nikon F4 user... kindly fall-in....

[panz]

F4s

[Ian]

Ex F4s user

[desmondwong]

F4 user..... looking for the MB-21 or MB-23 still......

[Minimalis]

F4S.

One of the best ever. Cept the AF. gr

[Ian]

Quote: Originally posted by desmondwong F4 user..... looking for the MB-21 or MB-23 still......

Trawl ebay!

There's usually a couple of MB-21s going every week or two, same with the MB-23


Minimalis:
There's nothing wrong or slow with the AF speed. AFS works fine on the F4s and with a bit of MF work before using AF it's good on non AFS lenses

[desmondwong]

thanx for the advice.... but i'd prefer to deal where i can first test and see the thing....

[extreme2]

How much are you willing to pay for a brand new MB-23.

[desmondwong]

i have no idea coz CP won't give an equote as they dun carry that product anymore.....

anyway, still in the midst of my exams so can't go eqpt hunting..... anyway, TCW is selling a second hand MB-23 for S$180....

how much are you expecting?

[skf]

ex F4S

[Ian]

Quote: Originally posted by desmondwong thanx for the advice.... but i'd prefer to deal where i can first test and see the thing....

Fair comment for an MB-23, totally irrelevent for an MB-21 as it's just a battery holder when all's said and done

[desmondwong]

isn't the MB-21 the one that makes an F4 the F4s, the MB-23 the one that makes an F4 and F4e and the MB-20 the mere battery holder that makes an F4 an F4?

[extreme2]

Quote: Originally posted by desmondwong isn't the MB-21 the one that makes an F4 the F4s, the MB-23 the one that makes an F4 and F4e and the MB-20 the mere battery holder that makes an F4 an F4?

MB-23 can take the MN-20 battery pack. This is the configuration favored by the pros.

[Ian]

Quote: Originally posted by extreme2 MB-23 can take the MN-20 battery pack. This is the configuration favored by the pros.

Don't know where you got that info from, in Australia and most other countries the pro's used straight MB-21's as the NiCad pack was too damn expensive.

[Ian]

Quote: Originally posted by desmondwong isn't the MB-21 the one that makes an F4 the F4s, the MB-23 the one that makes an F4 and F4e and the MB-20 the mere battery holder that makes an F4 an F4?

Essentially yes, the differences are the number and types of battery used.

[desmondwong]

i find the batt packs too ex too..... and why not use AA's when it's cheap and so widely available?

anyway, just to confirm..... the MB-20 is just a 4-AA batt holder with no electronics....

the MB-21 takes 6-AA and has electronics for the shutter release....

the MB-23 takes 6-AA and has the option of the MN-20 and it also has electronics for the shutter release....

correct me if i'mm wrong....

[extreme2]

Quote: Originally posted by desmondwong i find the batt packs too ex too..... and why not use AA's when it's cheap and so widely available? anyway, just to confirm..... the MB-20 is just a 4-AA batt holder with no electronics.... the MB-21 takes 6-AA and has electronics for the shutter release.... the MB-23 takes 6-AA and has the option of the MN-20 and it also has electronics for the shutter release.... correct me if i'mm wrong....

You are correct.

MN-20 is useful to those who need to work in the cold temperature where Nicad can extend the battery life. So is not so useful for us.

[skf]

There is one good feature of the F4S, you get very good battery mileage... Sometimes, you cannot even remember whe you last changed batteries..

Quote: Originally posted by desmondwong i find the batt packs too ex too..... and why not use AA's when it's cheap and so widely available? anyway, just to confirm..... the MB-20 is just a 4-AA batt holder with no electronics.... the MB-21 takes 6-AA and has electronics for the shutter release.... the MB-23 takes 6-AA and has the option of the MN-20 and it also has electronics for the shutter release.... correct me if i'mm wrong....

[desmondwong]

other than the advantage of using an MN-20 and a higher shooting rate, which i doubt i'd use anyway, any other advantage of getting the MB-23 over the MB-21?

[skf]

Quote: Originally posted by desmondwong other than the advantage of using an MN-20 and a higher shooting rate, which i doubt i'd use anyway, any other advantage of getting the MB-23 over the MB-21?

no comments on the MN-20, since I have not used it before. But as for MB21 or MB23, I believe it is a personal preference, since both loads 6 AA's, just that -

MB21 - if I remembered correctly, it is a 2 piece part, with 3 AA's in a vertical orientation by the grip side, the other 3 AA's in a horizon orientation.

MB23 - all the 6 AA's are loaded into a tray at the bottom.

Personally, my preference is the F4S (ie. MB21), no particular logical explanation ...