Yesterday popped out D5D for a spin

[jsbn]

First time I'm trying direct B&W mode on a DSLR and to be honest I'm quite impressed.

[rogue76]

Originally Posted by jsbn First time I'm trying direct B&W mode on a DSLR and to be honest I'm quite impressed.

hmm..the D5D has built in B&W mode? any colour tone filters as well? thks

[jsbn]

Yupz. Juz enter ur function menu, go all the way down where u can select Natural, Portrait, Landscape, Adobe color space mode. Juz select the B&W mode will do.

Sorry, no colour filters. I wished for it though.

[rogue76]

oh..no colour filters... thks for the info. thinking of getting this dslr...

[jsbn]

In fact I dun think any of the newer SLRs comes with colour filters on their B&W modes?

[rogue76]

The new Olympus E500 has B&W mode with colour filters Thought of getting that instead but the noise at high iso for that cam disappointed me..

[Eyesthruthelens]

Originally Posted by rogue76 The new Olympus E500 has B&W mode with colour filters Thought of getting that instead but the noise at high iso for that cam disappointed me..

E500 sensor size is small..

[jsbn]

Olympus crop factor is like... 2x?

Ok lah. I guess we can't have best of both worlds. Want this, want that and want cheap.

[Eyesthruthelens]

Originally Posted by jsbn Ok lah. I guess we can't have best of both worlds. Want this, want that and want cheap.

KM5D or 7D

[MadAnt]

Mmm...
Actually if you have photoshop, you would be able to create black and white from colour images with the effect of whatever colour filter you want.

Check out the channel mixer tool in photoshop.
Much more flexible than using an actual filter too =)

[nightwolf75]

Originally Posted by MadAnt Mmm... Actually if you have photoshop, you would be able to create black and white from colour images with the effect of whatever colour filter you want. Check out the channel mixer tool in photoshop. Much more flexible than using an actual filter too =)

well... yeah. tho the purists out there will argue dat the actual filter on the lens will give a more even rendering across ur pics.

but, yeah. u can create it in photoshop or can try these set of free filters.
http://www.opanda.com/en/pf/index.html

still, its not a good idea to directly convert ur pic in camera to BnW. best to leave it in colour then manipulate it in PS. there are also free PS BnW *.atn and plugins (try google optikverve) available online.

[majere2sg]

20D may not be a new DSLR, but it has the following color toning (Yellow/Orange/Red/Green) for B/W. I believe the same also applies for 350D.

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

lao eh, and the stupid fact that D7D dun have this... wah kao... when the new firmware coming!!!

anyway, wan color filters, just print out a color chart, den preset whitebalance to that color, your pics auto got filter liao lor...

[Drudkh]

Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt lao eh, and the stupid fact that D7D dun have this... wah kao... when the new firmware coming!!! anyway, wan color filters, just print out a color chart, den preset whitebalance to that color, your pics auto got filter liao lor...

i don't need those useless features in 7D.

[unseen]

Originally Posted by majere2sg 20D may not be a new DSLR, but it has the following color toning (Yellow/Orange/Red/Green) for B/W. I believe the same also applies for 350D.

Ditto.

Originally Posted by nightwolf75 well... yeah. tho the purists out there will argue dat the actual filter on the lens will give a more even rendering across ur pics.

LOL dun think there's actually a B&W filter other than using IR filter rite.. From my use it creates a totally different photo. very cool (without the channel swapping). Don't think there's a software filter than can do something similar yet..

hmm anyway hor.. dSLR B&W mode is just colour desaturation of a colour photo. If u dun believe me u test it out. LOL unlike film, dSLR sensors don't capture in B&W.. the best they can do is to use the colour information and desaturate it. Something that is also done in Photoshop. And you can do it better with the colour channel information. I doubt the small processor in the camera can match the $500 CPU in my computer.

Thus you can say that using the B&W mode is similar to using auto mode on the dSLR..
Gimmicks for the un-initiated.

[nightwolf75]

Originally Posted by unseen Ditto. LOL dun think there's actually a B&W filter other than using IR filter rite.. From my use it creates a totally different photo. very cool (without the channel swapping). Don't think there's a software filter than can do something similar yet..

opss... i meant the standard BnW filters for film photography - yellow-green, red and blue.

Quote: hmm anyway hor.. dSLR B&W mode is just colour desaturation of a colour photo. If u dun believe me u test it out. LOL unlike film, dSLR sensors don't capture in B&W.. the best they can do is to use the colour information and desaturate it. Something that is also done in Photoshop. And you can do it better with the colour channel information. I doubt the small processor in the camera can match the $500 CPU in my computer.

yep. dat sums it up. AFAIK, there's only 1 truely BnW digital camera - the Kodak DCS 760m.

[unseen]

Originally Posted by nightwolf75 opss... i meant the standard BnW filters for film photography - yellow-green, red and blue.

Hee I see.. LOL that one i can't comment.. only did colour film b4.. already made me a broke guy.. nvr did touch BnW film photography b4..

Originally Posted by nightwolf75 yep. dat sums it up. AFAIK, there's only 1 truely BnW digital camera - the Kodak DCS 760m.

haha i think Kodak stopped making digital cameras for a long time liaoz... LOL they actually made a BnW digital camera? wah... Must go google and have a @@ at the camera.. cannot be so sua ku..

[jsbn]

Originally Posted by nightwolf75 well... yeah. tho the purists out there will argue dat the actual filter on the lens will give a more even rendering across ur pics. but, yeah. u can create it in photoshop or can try these set of free filters. http://www.opanda.com/en/pf/index.html still, its not a good idea to directly convert ur pic in camera to BnW. best to leave it in colour then manipulate it in PS. there are also free PS BnW *.atn and plugins (try google optikverve) available online.

Dis I have to agree. I forgot that it was on B&W mode when I popped over to Esplanade waterfront for a test and my first picture there was on B&W!

But its a pity Opanda PhotoFilters don't come in Macintosh variety.

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

Originally Posted by Drudkh i don't need those useless features in 7D.

U jealous?

[Drudkh]

Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt U jealous?

nope, those are really useless. once i shoot in b/w i can't control the tones anymore. if i shoot in colour, i still have choices to select RGB/CMYK channels to get what i want.