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Old 12th November 2005   #1
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Default Effects of Using DT lens on Film SLR or full frame Imager

Hiee Pals...

Just to share an illustration on the effects of using DT lens on 35mm film camera....



Hope this will help those who may not understand the DT lens effect on film cameras. With this info.
This is also true for the DX lens in Nikon system, Canon EF-S lens - if used on a full frame 35mm film SLR or full frame Imager (CCD/CMOS).

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Old 12th November 2005   #2
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Nicely done!
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Old 12th November 2005   #3
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Good Stuff. Very Informative.
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Did anyone fit any DT lense to a film body and taken a shot?
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Originally Posted by UY79
Did anyone fit any DT lense to a film body and taken a shot?
You try and let us know lor
It is stated that the DT lens is not for SLR. Therefore, don't be hero, try it and spoil either equipment. Like Canon, some lens cannot be use on FF due to the focus length.
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Originally Posted by BBTM
You try and let us know lor
It is stated that the DT lens is not for SLR. Therefore, don't be hero, try it and spoil either equipment. Like Canon, some lens cannot be use on FF due to the focus length.
Nikon DX lenses can be used on SLR without any drawbacks except vignetting. And most of the wide angle DX lenses will not vignette at longer focal ranges.
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Originally Posted by UY79
Nikon DX lenses can be used on SLR without any drawbacks except vignetting. And most of the wide angle DX lenses will not vignette at longer focal ranges.
Nikon also got some lens couldn't use on some SLR. So, for KM, unless u want to try, pls go ahead n do so. I don't want to take the risk.
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Originally Posted by BBTM
Nikon also got some lens couldn't use on some SLR. So, for KM, unless u want to try, pls go ahead n do so. I don't want to take the risk.
ALL Nikon DX lenses can be used on film bodies. I would try if I can get my hands on a DT lens.
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Originally Posted by UY79
ALL Nikon DX lenses can be used on film bodies. I would try if I can get my hands on a DT lens.
Vignetting like ++ edge degradation image at wider angle range of the 11-18 DT....

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Originally Posted by sulhan
Vignetting like ++ edge degradation image at wider angle range of the 11-18 DT....

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If so, at what focal length does the vignetting stops?
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Old 19th November 2005   #12
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Originally Posted by UY79
If so, at what focal length does the vignetting stops?

That could be interesting... DT lenses are significantly cheaper...

Must try when we meet up... I got loads of Superia 200 from my last trip still lying in my dry cabinet.
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Old 30th November 2005   #13
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Originally Posted by UY79
Did anyone fit any DT lense to a film body and taken a shot?
The 18-70 (kit lens for 5D) can be used at 28mm on a film body IIRC. Dunno about the results, but it will give full coverage at that setting and up...
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Originally Posted by UY79
ALL Nikon DX lenses can be used on film bodies. I would try if I can get my hands on a DT lens.
can mount but does not mean full capability, e.g. 18-70 vignets at all focal lengths based on what nikon users say.
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Old 30th November 2005   #15
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Originally Posted by mpenza
can mount but does not mean full capability, e.g. 18-70 vignets at all focal lengths based on what nikon users say.
That post was to address BBTM's statement that not all Nikon DX can be mounted on film bodies.

Incompatibility of the lenses and their effects on film bodies are well known in other mounts. Especially with Nikon, since there's no physical restriction in the design of their DX lense as compared with Canon's EF-S where filing on the protruding part is required.

I'm just curious that no one with KM DT lenses tried to do what the Nikon users did with their DX lense.

Later I found out there is someone who did: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=15839164
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Originally Posted by UY79
That post was to address BBTM's statement that not all Nikon DX can be mounted on film bodies.

Incompatibility of the lenses and their effects on film bodies are well known in other mounts. Especially with Nikon, since there's no physical restriction in the design of their DX lense as compared with Canon's EF-S where filing on the protruding part is required.

I'm just curious that no one with KM DT lenses tried to do what the Nikon users did with their DX lense.

Later I found out there is someone who did: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=15839164

Woah!!! Brilliant!!! Now I am quite sold!!
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Woah!!! Brilliant!!! Now I am quite sold!!
Hi, I am planning to get myself a 17-35. So it is either Tamron or KM. But after reading this, I think I will get Tamron instead of KM because KM is also a DT lens. Whereas Tamron can be used on full frame and Digital also.
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Old 7th December 2005   #18
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Originally Posted by ryanvios
Hi, I am planning to get myself a 17-35. So it is either Tamron or KM. But after reading this, I think I will get Tamron instead of KM because KM is also a DT lens. Whereas Tamron can be used on full frame and Digital also.

err... sorry, I didn't read KM 17-35mm as a DT lens. It should be a D lens for ADI purpose not the DT lens which KM came out with D5D. Correct me if I am wrong. I am also getting a 17-35m too..
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Old 7th December 2005   #19
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Default Re: Effects of Using DT lens on Film SLR or full frame Imager

Originally Posted by ryanvios
Hi, I am planning to get myself a 17-35. So it is either Tamron or KM. But after reading this, I think I will get Tamron instead of KM because KM is also a DT lens. Whereas Tamron can be used on full frame and Digital also.
Ryan, the 17-35mm is a full frame lens. Not a digital lens for APS-C sized sensors. It will work with 35mm format film SLRs as well as full frame DSLRs. The KM is better I feel but that's wholly due to brand loyalty...
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need top ask a question...thus if we use a DT lens on a APS-sized ccd, will the field of view be cropped as well?
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