2 piece of focusing screen on D7D?

Del_CtrlnoAlt · 11th November 2005

Hmm strange i got back my ML D7D... den the girl gave me back another screen... was shocked thou, cos previously, i have changed to L, den they gimme back 1, now i add another M, they gimme another 1, duh... so i suspect inside of D7D, already have 2... another problem now...

so suppose dust get inside the chamber between the 2 focusing screen or the upper 1 between the viewfinder... no matter how hard we blow also no use liao... damnit.. or is there?

Drudkh · 11th November 2005

then ask them to clean, since they make it dirty.
i think i know why they give you back. the M & L, although its said to be 2 pieces, but they are together, and you buy the M & L, and not M, and you already have the L in your 7D. I think they can't replace just 1 of the 2 pieces, due to alignment?

I guess the standard screen which is G is only 1 piece. The L is 2 pieces, M also 2 pieces, as well as ML.

Del_CtrlnoAlt · 11th November 2005

Originally Posted by Drudkh

then ask them to clean, since they make it dirty.
i think i know why they give you back. the M & L, although its said to be 2 pieces, but they are together, and you buy the M & L, and not M, and you already have the L in your 7D. I think they can't replace just 1 of the 2 pieces, due to alignment?

I guess the standard screen which is G is only 1 piece. The L is 2 pieces, M also 2 pieces, as well as ML.

the problem is they gimme 1 thats clear, no lines...

Drudkh · 11th November 2005

then i think you gotta clarify with them. i wanna see how's the M.

UY79 · 11th November 2005

I've asked them previously about it. The D7D has 2 focusing screens unlike Dynax 7 where there's only one. If you changed from a new set to ML, you actually have to pay for both M and the L screens.

ks2005 · 12th November 2005

Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt

Hmm strange i got back my ML D7D... den the girl gave me back another screen... was shocked thou, cos previously, i have changed to L, den they gimme back 1, now i add another M, they gimme another 1, duh... so i suspect inside of D7D, already have 2... another problem now...

so suppose dust get inside the chamber between the 2 focusing screen or the upper 1 between the viewfinder... no matter how hard we blow also no use liao... damnit.. or is there?

When did you send in for ML screen replacement and how long it take ?
About 1 week ago, KM service center say no more ML screen.
Do you know they have any more ML screen ?
I hope they have a new shipment since last week.

Del_CtrlnoAlt · 12th November 2005

Originally Posted by ks2005

When did you send in for ML screen replacement and how long it take ?
About 1 week ago, KM service center say no more ML screen.
Do you know they have any more ML screen ?
I hope they have a new shipment since last week.

sent on monday back on thursday...

AncientMariner · 12th November 2005

Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt

sent on monday back on thursday...

Can tell us what the ML focusing screen does for you?

Del_CtrlnoAlt · 12th November 2005

Originally Posted by AncientMariner

Can tell us what the ML focusing screen does for you?

okie... i just tested my D7 & D7D manual focusing at my product shoot studio...

solid sia... i can clearly see what is in focus, whats not... and best of all, i can even focus on the printed word on a flat panel & spot on, unlike the older screen, older screen seems to be a tad off... esp shooting macros. must find time to shoot macros at AH...

Drudkh · 12th November 2005

Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt

okie... i just tested my D7 & D7D manual focusing at my product shoot studio...

solid sia... i can clearly see what is in focus, whats not... and best of all, i can even focus on the printed word on a flat panel & spot on, unlike the older screen, older screen seems to be a tad off... esp shooting macros. must find time to shoot macros at AH...

what lens did you use?
can you try on a slower lens?
words from others who had changed said only the f/2.8 lens gave the best results, while slower lenses would be very dim.

TME · 12th November 2005

Yes, try at least f/5.6 or f/6.3... these are the most common apertures for consumer grade optics...

Drudkh · 12th November 2005

don't think I'll change now since I already have the L screen, but most probably when I get the new upgraded body.

Del_CtrlnoAlt · 13th November 2005

I CONFIRM 1 thing... hehehe

D7D is using 2 focusing screen snap into 1... just found my other piece, the M is without any focusing point, the L is with focusing point, so when u change to M, they just take out the G, den when u change to L, they just change the normal focusing with the L, and its both snaped together kind...

Drudkh · 14th November 2005

Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt

I CONFIRM 1 thing... hehehe

D7D is using 2 focusing screen snap into 1... just found my other piece, the M is without any focusing point, the L is with focusing point, so when u change to M, they just take out the G, den when u change to L, they just change the normal focusing with the L, and its both snaped together kind...

you are confusing everyone liao

Del_CtrlnoAlt · 14th November 2005

Originally Posted by Drudkh

you are confusing everyone liao

now den u understand me... or misunderstand...

Drudkh · 14th November 2005

Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt

now den u understand me... or misunderstand...

please, stop it!
start from the beginning can?

apchoo · 16th November 2005

Originally Posted by Drudkh

please, stop it!
start from the beginning can?

Yes, DCA, could you please? My 7D is at KMSC at the moment and I'm thinking of getting my focusing screen changed at the same time.

Del_CtrlnoAlt · 16th November 2005

okie...

fyi, your focusing screen for the D7D is made out of 2 focusing screen.

for normal out of the box 7D, it have 1 G focusing screen and 1 clear with the focusing point.

so when you change to M screen, its just replacing the G with M, the clear focusing point 1 is used back.

so when you change to L screen, its just replacing the clear focusing point screen with the grid with focusing point 1. The G is used back.

so when using a ML, they will change both... simple as that... and both are clipped together than placed into the body.

apchoo · 16th November 2005

Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt

okie...

fyi, your focusing screen for the D7D is made out of 2 focusing screen.

for normal out of the box 7D, it have 1 G focusing screen and 1 clear with the focusing point.

so when you change to M screen, its just replacing the G with M, the clear focusing point 1 is used back.

so when you change to L screen, its just replacing the clear focusing point screen with the grid with focusing point 1. The G is used back.

so when using a ML, they will change both... simple as that... and both are clipped together than placed into the body.

Thanks for that, DCA. More questions if you can answer, please. The KM sites don't tell you much ...

Going by what you say about about the M & L focusing screens, that is the difference/advantage of one over the other apart from the presence of grid lines in the L? For example, what is the difference between the M and standard G?

So when you combine M + L to become ML, what's the advantage for doing so?

Drudkh · 16th November 2005

I have the L, the grid lines are very fine and does not obstruct your view at all. very easy on the eyes unlike the super-imposed screens in Nikon cams (which can be turned off). I like the L screen as it helps me to get my horizon correct. This is extremely useful for me when I shoot sports.

11th November 2005	#1
Del_CtrlnoAlt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Outside the Dry Box. Posts: 16,342	2 piece of focusing screen on D7D? Hmm strange i got back my ML D7D... den the girl gave me back another screen... was shocked thou, cos previously, i have changed to L, den they gimme back 1, now i add another M, they gimme another 1, duh... so i suspect inside of D7D, already have 2... another problem now... so suppose dust get inside the chamber between the 2 focusing screen or the upper 1 between the viewfinder... no matter how hard we blow also no use liao... damnit.. or is there? __________________ Logging Off Permanently. Those who need to contact me will know where to contact me.

11th November 2005	#2
Drudkh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,019	Re: 2 piece of focusing screen on D7D? then ask them to clean, since they make it dirty. i think i know why they give you back. the M & L, although its said to be 2 pieces, but they are together, and you buy the M & L, and not M, and you already have the L in your 7D. I think they can't replace just 1 of the 2 pieces, due to alignment? I guess the standard screen which is G is only 1 piece. The L is 2 pieces, M also 2 pieces, as well as ML.

11th November 2005	#4
Drudkh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,019	Re: 2 piece of focusing screen on D7D? then i think you gotta clarify with them. i wanna see how's the M.

11th November 2005	#5
UY79 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bedok Posts: 995	Re: 2 piece of focusing screen on D7D? I've asked them previously about it. The D7D has 2 focusing screens unlike Dynax 7 where there's only one. If you changed from a new set to ML, you actually have to pay for both M and the L screens.

12th November 2005	#11
TME Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clementi Posts: 6,188	Re: 2 piece of focusing screen on D7D? Yes, try at least f/5.6 or f/6.3... these are the most common apertures for consumer grade optics...

13th November 2005	#13
Del_CtrlnoAlt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Outside the Dry Box. Posts: 16,342	Re: 2 piece of focusing screen on D7D? I CONFIRM 1 thing... hehehe D7D is using 2 focusing screen snap into 1... just found my other piece, the M is without any focusing point, the L is with focusing point, so when u change to M, they just take out the G, den when u change to L, they just change the normal focusing with the L, and its both snaped together kind... __________________ Logging Off Permanently. Those who need to contact me will know where to contact me.

16th November 2005	#18
Del_CtrlnoAlt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Outside the Dry Box. Posts: 16,342	Re: 2 piece of focusing screen on D7D? okie... fyi, your focusing screen for the D7D is made out of 2 focusing screen. for normal out of the box 7D, it have 1 G focusing screen and 1 clear with the focusing point. so when you change to M screen, its just replacing the G with M, the clear focusing point 1 is used back. so when you change to L screen, its just replacing the clear focusing point screen with the grid with focusing point 1. The G is used back. so when using a ML, they will change both... simple as that... and both are clipped together than placed into the body. __________________ Logging Off Permanently. Those who need to contact me will know where to contact me.