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    "......As the United States emerged as the dominant power in the Western hemisphere in the 1890s, how did it behave? Future President Theodore Roosevelt personified a nation supremely confident that the 100 years ahead would be an American century. Over a decade that began in 1895 with the U.S. secretary of state declaring the United States “sovereign on this continent,” America liberated Cuba; threatened Britain and Germany with war to force them to accept American positions on disputes in Venezuela and Canada; backed an insurrection that split Colombia to create a new state of Panama (which immediately gave the U.S. concessions to build the Panama Canal); and attempted to overthrow the government of Mexico, which was supported by the United Kingdom and financed by London bankers. In the half century that followed, U.S. military forces intervened in “our hemisphere” on more than 30 separate occasions to settle economic or territorial disputes in terms favorable to Americans, or oust leaders they judged unacceptable...."

    With C as the middle kingdom and R trying to regain her past glory, U no more dictates what they want.

    U still flexing her muscle but has no more power perhaps only supported by one of the ASEAN countries and also the Jap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    "......As the United States emerged as the dominant power in the Western hemisphere in the 1890s, how did it behave? Future President Theodore Roosevelt personified a nation supremely confident that the 100 years ahead would be an American century. Over a decade that began in 1895 with the U.S. secretary of state declaring the United States “sovereign on this continent,” America liberated Cuba; threatened Britain and Germany with war to force them to accept American positions on disputes in Venezuela and Canada; backed an insurrection that split Colombia to create a new state of Panama (which immediately gave the U.S. concessions to build the Panama Canal); and attempted to overthrow the government of Mexico, which was supported by the United Kingdom and financed by London bankers. In the half century that followed, U.S. military forces intervened in “our hemisphere” on more than 30 separate occasions to settle economic or territorial disputes in terms favorable to Americans, or oust leaders they judged unacceptable...."

    With C as the middle kingdom and R trying to regain her past glory, U no more dictates what they want.

    U still flexing her muscle but has no more power perhaps only supported by one of the ASEAN countries and also the Jap.
    hi yappy..what's the point of this article?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loath View Post
    hi yappy..what's the point of this article?
    It's for Obama to read.

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    You know it always bugged me when they said and they have been saying it for so long now too...America is the only super power...Soviet fell...lah de de dah...

    As for the history lesson it is somewhat incorrect or maybe incomplete is better. Lincoln assassination...study it you may learn something basic. Then dig into intruder rolls and treaties and stuff like that and you will find the British and French connections. Remember old world traveler Ben Franklin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    "......As the United States emerged as the dominant power in the Western hemisphere in the 1890s, how did it behave? Future President Theodore Roosevelt personified a nation supremely confident that the 100 years ahead would be an American century. Over a decade that began in 1895 with the U.S. secretary of state declaring the United States “sovereign on this continent,” America liberated Cuba; threatened Britain and Germany with war to force them to accept American positions on disputes in Venezuela and Canada; backed an insurrection that split Colombia to create a new state of Panama (which immediately gave the U.S. concessions to build the Panama Canal); and attempted to overthrow the government of Mexico, which was supported by the United Kingdom and financed by London bankers. In the half century that followed, U.S. military forces intervened in “our hemisphere” on more than 30 separate occasions to settle economic or territorial disputes in terms favorable to Americans, or oust leaders they judged unacceptable...."
    With C as the middle kingdom and R trying to regain her past glory, U no more dictates what they want.
    U still flexing her muscle but has no more power perhaps only supported by one of the ASEAN countries and also the Jap.
    If you quote please state the source. Basic etiquette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    It's for Obama to read.
    They took POTUS in the basement showed him the JFK reel and said "Any questions?" LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    If you quote please state the source. Basic etiquette.
    He may be quoting himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    He may be quoting himself.
    Well, that raises other concerns then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    If you quote please state the source. Basic etiquette.
    See the link

    http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...s-trap/406756/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    He may be quoting himself.
    See the link:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...s-trap/406756/

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    [QUOTE=Octarine;9236940]Well, that raises other concerns then [/98187991QUOTE] So what is your concerns ?

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    "For example, in 1902, when British and German ships attempted to impose a naval blockade to force Venezuela to pay its debts to them, Roosevelt warned both countries that he would “be obliged to interfere by force if necessary” if they did not withdraw their ships. The British and Germans were persuaded to retreat and to resolve their dispute in terms satisfactory to the U.S. at The Hague. The following year, when Colombia refused to lease the Panama Canal Zone to the United States, America sponsored Panamanian secessionists, recognized the new Panamanian government within hours of its declaration of independence, and sent the Marines to defend the new country. Roosevelt defended the U.S. intervention on the grounds that it was “justified in morals and therefore justified in law.” Shortly thereafter, Panama granted the United States rights to the Canal Zone “in perpetuity.”"

    The above is taken from the same article linked.

    U recently went beyond the 12nm limit.

    Will they push further and warn C to free the place and talk terms to their liking?

    If they do it what will be the consequences?

    Do you think that C will give-in?

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    No big deal...C recently went inside 12 of Aleuts Islands Alaska USA...they were probably passing love notes between each other. haha

    China give in? Give in to what? I hope not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikonzen View Post
    No big deal...C recently went inside 12 of Aleuts Islands Alaska USA...they were probably passing love notes between each other. haha

    China give in? Give in to what?
    Haha... testing each other?

    Good try for both!

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    I already had great respect for LKY...after reading this I almost want to come live there right now! LOL

    http://foundily.com/lee-kwan-yew-too...ade-eat-words/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikonzen View Post
    I already had great respect for LKY...after reading this I almost want to come live there right now! LOL

    http://foundily.com/lee-kwan-yew-too...ade-eat-words/
    This is not the first time we've heard you want to live in Singapore.

    I hope it's not the last either.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikonzen View Post
    I already had great respect for LKY...after reading this I almost want to come live there right now! LOL

    http://foundily.com/lee-kwan-yew-too...ade-eat-words/
    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...o/2238154.html
    Sent from Channel NewsAsia Android app.

    Nikonzen, this is an example of our SG diplomacy towards all countries.

    We can sit on the fence and be friends with any country, and yet get much respect from them

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