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    Learning to convert to B&W, comments to help me improve pls. Thanks.


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    Default Re: Clifford Pier B&W

    nice tones & composition
    small nitpick: bottom centre, there are some black tones just above the rim, can ps away
    I am not talking about the gray square, that is fine

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    Thanks for your comments Ortega. Will do something about the black things at the bottom.

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    this might be a personal preference, but i think the picture could be a bit darker. i am not only talking of it from a technical point of view of exposure, but the whole idea of an enclosure and protection would look much better if the space were much darker.

    kashi

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    I think what vkashi meant was to make the exposure darker for a more dramatic efx on its atmosphere/climax.

    Symetrically and graphically the exposure was well composed and it shows lotsa of different tonal efx. But one thing you have to be careful when converting to B&W in PS i.e. if you converted by changing the color mode to Grayscale or worst of all, Desaturate, the latter will cast a red tinted tone on yr image. Once in Grayscale mode, lotsa of tonal details are lost.

    One technique you can use is playing with layers and layer-masking to retouch or tonal-correct certain areas. Techniques like doging & burning are essential in B&W traditional darkroom and therefore the same technique applies to digital darkroom too.

    You can burn-in the bottom part of the exposure, probably half of it. At the same time keep the whole appearance as natural as possible. I presume you converted this exposure using Channel Mixer, in which you have more controls and get accurate conversion. Based on yr case, after studying individual color channel (RGB) for its mid-tones, highlights & shadow details I'll convert to B&W in Channel Mixer, then study its Histograms and adjust its Level. Followed by dodging and/or burning to yr desired result.

    Well you might think this take a longer time than you expect. In B&W photography & post-processing (or the traditional darkroom phrase, printing), you gotta have discipline & patience and being critical in detials, in order to produce a great B&W photograph.

    Hope these advices help you in anyway. Cheers mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vkashi
    this might be a personal preference, but i think the picture could be a bit darker. i am not only talking of it from a technical point of view of exposure, but the whole idea of an enclosure and protection would look much better if the space were much darker.

    kashi
    Thanks vkashi,
    advise noted. Will try it out by darkening in PS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mezzotint
    Hope these advices help you in anyway. Cheers mate!
    Wow, thanks very much for the detail advise Mezzotint,
    thanks for taking the time to view my pic and explain the steps. Really appreciate it.

    It is definitely very helpful advise for a newbie like me. I will explore the steps that you mention, as I am not very familiar with PS yet, so have to try them out.
    Last edited by clicknick; 16th October 2005 at 02:42 PM.

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    No problem, clicknick! Have fun!

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