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    Friend of mine kena...

    http://www.straitstimes.com/singapor...-reports-filed

    Apparently it was a reputable place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    Friend of mine kena...

    http://www.straitstimes.com/singapor...-reports-filed

    Apparently it was a reputable place.

    When owner run road... reputable or not meant little...

    Hope those couple get back some $$$ soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by diver-hloc View Post
    When owner run road... reputable or not meant little...

    Hope those couple get back some $$$ soon...
    My friend said, the money is one thing (she paid in full for a Bali shoot package)... but now all the wedding arrangements screwed up and in panic mode to look for a new provider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diver-hloc View Post

    When owner run road... reputable or not meant little...

    Hope those couple get back some $$$ soon...
    Money is not the issue now. It's the coming wedding that causing the panic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donut88 View Post
    Money is not the issue now. It's the coming wedding that causing the panic.
    Fortunately for them digital photography is no rocket science now.

    In worst case scenario ask all guests to bring their DSLRs.

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    bridal shops open and close shop is very common, selling business, selling customers' invoices, changing names, changing owners are happening all the time, if you look closely to the industry, most of them operating in this way, cooking with 10 pots but only have 9 covers, so bad things surely happen, just don't know when will that be and who will be the unlucky one.

    beside, this trade does not rely on returned customers, most of the get their customers thru road shows and wedding fairs, and they invest heavily on these, they also hire promoters to do the sales, some promoters are doing it as full time job, that means they do road shows from a few bridal shops, their income is depends on how many customers they can grab during the fairs, those who went to shop bridal package in wedding fairs you will know, some of these promoters are very pushy, even aggressive, in order to close a sale, they promise many things and goodies to the wedding couples, so the wedding customers thought they bought a good deal in the wedding fair.
    but when these couples visited the bridal shop for the first time, than they realise that things are not what they think of, some couples will pay extra money to top up, some will keep fighting with the bridal shop for the things they "entitled", few will just give up or sell it away and look for other packages from other vendors. These are the stories we heard it very often in the wedding forums, in fact, is the main topic of most of the discussions.

    so what is the root cause of all these? you tell me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    bridal shops open and close shop is very common, selling business, selling customers' invoices, changing names, changing owners are happening all the time, if you look closely to the industry, most of them operating in this way, cooking with 10 pots but only have 9 covers, so bad things surely happen, just don't know when will that be and who will be the unlucky one.

    beside, this trade does not rely on returned customers, most of the get their customers thru road shows and wedding fairs, and they invest heavily on these, they also hire promoters to do the sales, some promoters are doing it as full time job, that means they do road shows from a few bridal shops, their income is depends on how many customers they can grab during the fairs, those who went to shop bridal package in wedding fairs you will know, some of these promoters are very pushy, even aggressive, in order to close a sale, they promise many things and goodies to the wedding couples, so the wedding customers thought they bought a good deal in the wedding fair.
    but when these couples visited the bridal shop for the first time, than they realise that things are not what they think of, some couples will pay extra money to top up, some will keep fighting with the bridal shop for the things they "entitled", few will just give up or sell it away and look for other packages from other vendors. These are the stories we heard it very often in the wedding forums, in fact, is the main topic of most of the discussions.

    so what is the root cause of all these? you tell me.
    The cure for all these is educating consumers.

    Education is the only way. Consumers who are savvy about shops and be wary of sales gimmick, will reduce or even take away the bad situations. Once consumers are savvy, those black sheep shops will have a natural death.

    Only gullible consumers will fall for such sales gimmick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    bridal shops open and close shop is very common, selling business, selling customers' invoices, changing names, changing owners are happening all the time, if you look closely to the industry, most of them operating in this way, cooking with 10 pots but only have 9 covers, so bad things surely happen, just don't know when will that be and who will be the unlucky one.

    beside, this trade does not rely on returned customers, most of the get their customers thru road shows and wedding fairs, and they invest heavily on these, they also hire promoters to do the sales, some promoters are doing it as full time job, that means they do road shows from a few bridal shops, their income is depends on how many customers they can grab during the fairs, those who went to shop bridal package in wedding fairs you will know, some of these promoters are very pushy, even aggressive, in order to close a sale, they promise many things and goodies to the wedding couples, so the wedding customers thought they bought a good deal in the wedding fair.
    but when these couples visited the bridal shop for the first time, than they realise that things are not what they think of, some couples will pay extra money to top up, some will keep fighting with the bridal shop for the things they "entitled", few will just give up or sell it away and look for other packages from other vendors. These are the stories we heard it very often in the wedding forums, in fact, is the main topic of most of the discussions.

    so what is the root cause of all these? you tell me.
    Exactly like what Catchlights said. The unethical ones take business away from good ones just like a bad builder who show samples of nice houses but when comes to building it uses the cheapest materials and cheapest labor and every crashes down. The blame is then showered by the whole building and reno industry. On bridal road shows they may show the best work and even sometimes not their work or the work from the old photographers they pissed off and no longer working with them. But actual shoot is by a weekender paid $250 for AD shoot or full time staff photo at a measly $1800 total monthly salary before deductions, he is over squeezed and tired out and artistic aspirations killed when one is dealing with money hungry bad management.

    The more savvy couples goes ala carte instead of with bridal shops and pick their own best fit of vendors to ensure control. The more financially able ones hire planners to do management on their chosen vendors. Even the financially common couples can get more value out when going ala carte, you do pay a bit more but the value gotten back is more as well and some value are intrinsic and not measure by money. Just like some damages cannot be measured by money also.

    Buyers beware. But unfortunately there are always gullible consumers. Just like fishing. How smart fishes are, still got those who will take the bait, sometimes even when they already seen the line and hook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    bridal shops open and close shop is very common, selling business, selling customers' invoices, changing names, changing owners are happening all the time, if you look closely to the industry, most of them operating in this way, cooking with 10 pots but only have 9 covers, so bad things surely happen, just don't know when will that be and who will be the unlucky one.

    beside, this trade does not rely on returned customers, most of the get their customers thru road shows and wedding fairs, and they invest heavily on these, they also hire promoters to do the sales, some promoters are doing it as full time job, that means they do road shows from a few bridal shops, their income is depends on how many customers they can grab during the fairs, those who went to shop bridal package in wedding fairs you will know, some of these promoters are very pushy, even aggressive, in order to close a sale, they promise many things and goodies to the wedding couples, so the wedding customers thought they bought a good deal in the wedding fair.
    but when these couples visited the bridal shop for the first time, than they realise that things are not what they think of, some couples will pay extra money to top up, some will keep fighting with the bridal shop for the things they "entitled", few will just give up or sell it away and look for other packages from other vendors. These are the stories we heard it very often in the wedding forums, in fact, is the main topic of most of the discussions.

    so what is the root cause of all these? you tell me.
    A photographer friend in Malaysia told me a wedding gowns rental shop in KL has also started to branch into wedding photography and video. They don't have to know how to do it. They just hire freelancers and weekends shooters to do the jobs. Charge customers a few thousands and only pay shooters a few hundreds. High profit margins.

    If you care about your wedding deal directly with the photographer yourself instead of relying on a "good package" which you don't know whether Mas Selamat or Kamarudin is going to be your wedding photographer or video cameraman or both.
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    The shop front looks run down, cheap and messy for a "reputable" bridal studio in first world country. I don't feel like walking into it.

    I expect to see:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    The shop front looks run down, cheap and messy for a "reputable" bridal studio in first world country. I don't feel like walking into it. I expect to see:
    Proves that majority of Singaporeans (probably 70%) do not judge a book by its cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    Proves that majority of Singaporeans (probably 70%) do not judge a book by its cover.
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