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    I have come across a few entreprenurs on Straits Times who are NSFs still serving army.

    They are running their own company and serving the army at the same time.

    Is this moonlighting ?
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    don't think so.

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    What does the terms moonlighting refers ?

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    Erm... You SURE you don't know that meaning?

    In short, "Taking up a secondary job that's outside that of ur primary day job."

    And don't take NSF as a 'service'. When u're still in NS, ur primary work is to serve the nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbn
    Erm... You SURE you don't know that meaning?

    In short, "Taking up a secondary job that's outside that of ur primary day job."

    And don't take NSF as a 'service'. When u're still in NS, ur primary work is to serve the nation.

    ok. How about those in the papers ? The photo of the guy is clearly shown on the papers and stated that he is still serving NS and has staff around the world.

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    If the NSF owns a company outside is considered moonlighting, then what about those who help their parents that own a business? eg: hawkers, owns a provision shop, etc.. which is pretty common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayschampion
    ok. How about those in the papers ? The photo of the guy is clearly shown on the papers and stated that he is still serving NS and has staff around the world.
    If its already on newspaper and Mindef didn't do a single thing, means its legal. So what if Mindef takes action? Ask him to close business? then it'll be another BIG joke all over the world.

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    I often read such news but sad to say most of those young entreprenurs are often from somehow rich families............imo.
    Else how to have the capital to set up business? most of the time when you read such news do take note of his family background if reported.
    If you are a road-side beng with good ideas for business you think anyone will want to invest for you? no no..

    I may be wrong........come on fire me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayschampion
    I have come across a few entreprenurs on Straits Times who are NSFs still serving army.

    They are running their own company and serving the army at the same time.

    Is this moonlighting ?
    Don't think so. They are not regulars, so can run their own company during their off days. If they are regular, then diff story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominator
    I often read such news but sad to say most of those young entreprenurs are often from somehow rich families............imo.
    Else how to have the capital to set up business? most of the time when you read such news do take note of his family background if reported.
    If you are a road-side beng with good ideas for business you think anyone will want to invest for you? no no..

    I may be wrong........come on fire me!
    yeah, i agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seng44
    Don't think so. They are not regulars, so can run their own company during their off days. If they are regular, then diff story.
    Based on the papers, those NSFs did not get into any problems concluding that NSFs can do their work within comfort zone while regulars are strictly cannot ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayschampion


    Based on the papers, those NSFs did not get into any problems concluding that NSFs can do their work within comfort zone while regulars are strictly cannot ?
    From what i know, regulars are bond to serve the nation fully. I know some regulars who have side business, which they kept it low profile. Any regular here who may want to clarify?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seng44
    From what i know, regulars are bond to serve the nation fully. I know some regulars who have side business, which they kept it low profile. Any regular here who may want to clarify?
    LoLx

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    I think its all a matter of how "close" you are and how well you build your relationship with your senior officers. By right, NO you are not allowed to work outside during NS because during that period you are treated as a full time staff of the military Hence the replacement of the pink ic with a 11B and you are charged under military law not civilian law. But of course by left if you do your work right, are not marked by anyone, anything goes...

    During my NS days, my OC actually asked us commanders to conduct a investigation to who is working outside, mostly as waiters and all... what happened was one joker worked in a restaurant then started to introduce the job to others. And the best part they are all stay in personnel of a operational company.... What we did was we under the table told them to stop it and reported to OC as "Oh no lah.... ah seng did it once only to help his friend..." OC give a "okay make sure once only..." Case close

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayschampion
    I have come across a few entreprenurs on Straits Times who are NSFs still serving army.

    They are running their own company and serving the army at the same time.

    Is this moonlighting ?

    Hi,

    Technically, serving NSF is considered government service, and I think servicemen are not supposed to have a second job outside without permission. At least that's what was told to me by a military security interviewer many years back. Of course, most of them will close an eye, unless you get into some major trouble.

    Which newspaper article are you referring to ? and which company/entrepreneur ?
    I know a 25-year old who has yet to serve NS because he's a high-profile 'entrepreneur'. Government ministers simply love to endorse these 'role models' and petition Mindef for them.

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    I think 16 Sept Straits Times

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    I think NS is not considered to be employment.

    Govt gives NSFs an allowance...not pay.

    Hence, as long as you do your needful duties properly, I dun think they care what else you do with your weekends/sparetime.

    Just my 2cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbesyeo
    I think NS is not considered to be employment.

    Govt gives NSFs an allowance...not pay.

    Hence, as long as you do your needful duties properly, I dun think they care what else you do with your weekends/sparetime.

    Just my 2cents.

    That's what I thought.... and almost got my friend into trouble and non-clearance - at the time.... not sure if things have changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leave
    That's what I thought.... and almost got my friend into trouble and non-clearance - at the time.... not sure if things have changed.
    What happen ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayschampion
    What happen ?

    Well, I just got some hints from the interviewer on the 'right' way of doing things. Anyway, nothing happened and he was cleared. He's a pretty big shot now.... but just imagine the things the gov can do to dig out the dirt on anyone if my interview is still in their logs .

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