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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    I agree. Let's float the little red dot and move it to Europe.

    And face this in Europe....




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    Quote Originally Posted by donut88 View Post
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    isn't it a coincidence that they are talking abt taking bk the airspace while the haze is around?

    Is it a blackmail?
    Divert attention .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    Divert attention .


    How is this 'Divert Attention' when EVERYONE knows the haze will be back yearly since at least 1997...

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    How is this 'Divert Attention' when EVERYONE knows the haze will be back yearly since at least 1997...
    It's blackmail coz they can burn more if we don't give airspace

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    Quote Originally Posted by donut88 View Post
    It's blackmail coz they can burn more if we don't give airspace

    There is NOTHING to 'give'... since the airspace over Batam, Bintan and the whole of Riau by right, does belong to Indonesia. What 'rights' have SG to said to give or not to give the airspace back to Indonesia ??

    What the Indonesian wants... is the Control of their airspace be rightfully return to them. Which they have every right to do so...

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    Sounds like Singapore has been offering to help and until now offer has been turned down. I think someone has finally got someone's attention...lets hope at least because the reports of air quality sound a little ridiculous.

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    He says we have wait another 3 years wor ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by diver-hloc View Post
    There is NOTHING to 'give'... since the airspace over Batam, Bintan and the whole of Riau by right, does belong to Indonesia. What 'rights' have SG to said to give or not to give the airspace back to Indonesia ??

    What the Indonesian wants... is the Control of their airspace be rightfully return to them. Which they have every right to do so...
    It is an international concern for safety reason .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    It is an international concern for safety reason .

    So that makes it alright for us to ignore Indonesia sovereignty over their own airspace... you sure that's the excuse you're going to use to explain why SG isn't going to hand over Indonesia airspace control to Indonesian...

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    Quote Originally Posted by diver-hloc View Post
    So that makes it alright for us to ignore Indonesia sovereignty over their own airspace... you sure that's the excuse you're going to use to explain why SG isn't going to hand over Indonesia airspace control to Indonesian...
    Certainly not. They must had agreed in the first place. They must honoured it. If they wanted to take it back, go to the table again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    Certainly not. They must had agreed in the first place. They must honoured it. If they wanted to take it back, go to the table again.
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    Everybody remember, Jakarta said this problem needs US$60 mil (in 2006) to solve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchRival View Post
    Everybody remember, Jakarta said this problem needs US$60 mil (in 2006) to solve.
    It's a blackmail lor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    Certainly not. They must had agreed in the first place. They must honoured it. If they wanted to take it back, go to the table again.

    From what I know... the airspace has been under our control since 1946... do we have some sort of 'agreement'... I'm not sure... but are you sure we have some sort of agreement with them regarding controlling matters over their airspace forever ??

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    I can understand sometimes government cannot openly review the discussions with other countries tries even though they talk rubbish.

    However, this is about health of the people. Everyone deserves the right to know what so difficult to stop the burning. Not general.statement. all suggestions must be answered. We have rights to take actions if they are not doing anything. 3 years is not acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukitimah View Post
    We have rights to take actions if they are not doing anything. 3 years is not acceptable.
    What rights do you think Singapore has? (Taking it that 'we' refers to Singapore as country.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukitimah View Post
    [byWe have rights to take actions[/b] if they are not doing anything. 3 years is not acceptable.

    I very much would like to know what 'Actions' do you suggest we should/could/would take if Indonesia really take 3yrs or more to settle this burning problem ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by diver-hloc View Post

    I very much would like to know what 'Actions' do you suggest we should/could/would take if Indonesia really take 3yrs or more to settle this burning problem ??
    Pay someone to nuke them ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by donut88 View Post
    Pay someone to nuke them ......

    And cause more smoke, dust and lets not forget, radiation to spread...

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