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Old 10th October 2005   #1
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Default looking for close up filters for my FZ20

Hi there, i'm looking for close up filters but i'm not sure what i should get. Any suggestion?
I'm using the original adapter tube which is 72mm, but i think the filter for 72mm is not cheap. So any suggestion? Wanted to try macro shoots.
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Old 10th October 2005   #2
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Default Re: looking for close up filters for my FZ20

Well for your case, try getting a phayee adapter with a 62mm thread and a Nikon 6T for your macro needs.

The adapter can be obtained from JimDavis, but have to see whether he have enough stocks. Nikon 6T cost around SGD$68-70.

Hope this helps you..
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Old 10th October 2005   #3
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Yes, get your Phayee Adaptor from the ever super busy JimDavis. Got mine last weekend. Very helpful guy. Ordered my 62mm filter last week and getting them this weekend and going to go shooting after that...
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Old 10th October 2005   #4
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Oh...BTW, you can read more about Phayee Adaptor in the Lumix FAQ sticky...
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Old 10th October 2005   #5
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i actually intend to get one phayee adapter, but now still considering and thinkin if i can get a 72mm filter
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Old 10th October 2005   #6
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Default Re: looking for close up filters for my FZ20

Phayee adaptor + Nikon 6T (2 of them if u have the money)

I've got the Hoya +4 and the Nikon 6T. U can definitely tell the difference man. Feel like buying another 6T but wait till I have spare cash. Now just combine both lor...
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Old 10th October 2005   #7
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Default Re: looking for close up filters for my FZ20

Originally Posted by karnage
Phayee adaptor + Nikon 6T (2 of them if u have the money)

I've got the Hoya +4 and the Nikon 6T. U can definitely tell the difference man. Feel like buying another 6T but wait till I have spare cash. Now just combine both lor...

how do u combine 2 filter? do u hav pic that show the diff between the nikon one n hoya?
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Old 10th October 2005   #8
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Default Re: looking for close up filters for my FZ20

Originally Posted by jjhong
i actually intend to get one phayee adapter, but now still considering and thinkin if i can get a 72mm filter
As you already have said it yourself, 72mm filters are not cheap. So, do you want to spent on all the 72mm filters or buy a Phayee and use 62mm filters? I guess you have to really find out how much a 72mm Nikon 6T will cost versus a 62mm one. Then again, I'm not sure if Nikon has that thread size or not. Anyone wants to confirm?
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Old 11th October 2005   #9
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Default Re: looking for close up filters for my FZ20

i reckon u should get one range size..

cheaper and can inter-change..

i advise u to get the adapter... better to use 72mm.. more exp... not advertising for JD..

my setup = cam + adapter + 62 UV + flower hood..

sometime put CP 62mm ...

got 62 +4 filter..

one step down ring ... 62 - 55...

for TCON & WCON..

most setup "hang" ard the 62mm thread..

even 6T can fit in 62mm...

good luck..
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Old 11th October 2005   #10
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Default Re: looking for close up filters for my FZ20

Originally Posted by jjhong
how do u combine 2 filter? do u hav pic that show the diff between the nikon one n hoya?
Combining both filters means I screw on the Hoya +4 onto my Phayee adaptor first, then screw the Nikon 6T onto my Hoya. This gives me a dioptre of +6.9 I think... something like that.

As for differences, I just took photo of this tube of UHU glue beside me.

This is the Hoya +4 at I forgot how many times zoom.


This is the Nikon 6T at the same zoom setting as the Hoya one.

U can see from the above 2 that the Hoya obviously has a higher dioptre rating. However, I mentioned quality so here it is:

This is the Hoya +4 cropped at the edges to show chromatic abberation. Notice the black text has some color fringing? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.


THIS, my friend, is the same area cropped out from the 6T image. Notice there's also abit of fringing but it's negligible?

That would be the comparison between magnification & quality of the Hoya +4 & the Nikon 6T. Yup... Have I cleared ur queries? Try to get the 62mm ones la. 72mm ones are too expensive for my liking. But that's just me...
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Old 12th October 2005   #11
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Default Re: looking for close up filters for my FZ20

Originally Posted by jjhong
i actually intend to get one phayee adapter, but now still considering and thinkin if i can get a 72mm filter
I still have the 72mm Hoya +4 close-up filter. PM if interested.

Pics taken with it:


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Old 12th October 2005   #12
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Default Re: looking for close up filters for my FZ20

Yeah..go for 62mm ......a month ago i emailed Cathay photo to quote me the brands and prices of 72 mm & 62 mm Infrared filter..i cannot remember the details of the email but the price difference between the 72 mm & 62 mm Infrared filter of a particular brand(also forget liao) is quite shocking....
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Old 14th October 2005   #13
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Default Re: looking for close up filters for my FZ20

Where is JimDavis??

I'm exploring macro, so shooting macro using diopter +4 or 6T then I don't have to switch the macro on the camera but just shoot normal? +4 or 6T are actually just macro lens, except different brands Hoya and Nikon is it?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 14th October 2005   #14
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Default Re: looking for close up filters for my FZ20

The Hoya +4 is single element, just like your regular magnifying glass.

The 6T is double element, 2 layer of glass sandwitched together for correction for superior optic results.

No need to switch to macro, just use 'AP' mode or 'M' mode.
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Old 14th October 2005   #15
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Default Re: looking for close up filters for my FZ20

Definitely double elements are better, as you can see from my UHU Glue pictures above. No need to switch to Macro Mode. I used to use P mode but it always sets to f2.8. Very shallow DOF, I don't like. Recently, I've been using A mode with external bouce flash. I tape a piece of black tape over my flash light sensor so that it blasts its most intense, and I shoot at f8.0. It's just nice I think. I really like it like this. Of course, there are times u have to vary the tilt angle. Downside would be that the batteries drain faster lor. But at least I get more or less consistent results.

One question though: heard that Hoya +10 is double element? Anyone knows how its quality is like?
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Old 29th October 2005   #16
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Default Re: looking for close up filters for my FZ20

hey thanks for showin the differences, well it makes quite a difference between 2 filters
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