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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikonzen View Post
    How do you all see the opposition parties becoming most effective in the future (if gaining seats is what is effective)? What should they be doing???
    All opposition members should join the ruling party and help make Singapore a better and prosperous nation.

    This is the only way for them to stay relevant in today's world and to make their contributions meaningfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    That's is how Zimbabwe stays as a progressive and prosperous state in the Dark Continent.

    Without a strong leader and party it'll be merely surviving in the shadow and influence of Russia.
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    Yes, this tale is that repeated over and over is known.
    Is part of the system: intimidation, threats and gaga.

    Create fear. If you do not vote for me goes under the world.
    The also always says the press in Zimbabwe especially before elections.
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    In Africa, more precisely in Zimbabwe a dictator has been in power for 50 years.
    He controls a large secret police the country and people. He and his family clan and minions lives
    in untold wealth. Every 5 years, there are pseudo elections. (Monkey Theater) The people must choose.
    An opposition and free media does not exist. The opposition is suppressed and made and destroyed muzzled
    with staged courts. Censorship on all channels, day after day. He wins as ever and the people cheered.
    Amen
    I bet Zimbabwe doesn't have any precious resources. If not, US of A will come knocking with large army, in the name of democracy and human rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikonzen View Post
    I think it was a bad time for any opposition party to contest anything...country still in mourning over LKY whether you admit it or not so they are going to sit still where they are at. Timing against opposition here.
    Opposition did not choose the time for the election. We were suppose to do this next year (5th year cycle) not now which was changed by the ruling party. If this was US, would Obama and the democrat allow the Republican to change the 4 year duration because they feel like it? heheh
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    Opposition should make use of social and traditional media to get more supporters. That is the key to winning the next election. They have the next 5 years to build up support for their cause.

    .....learn from Amos Yee sans the vulgarities.
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    I think we should respect the decision by majority. So hopefully no more complaints after making that decision. Just keep a record and bring them out 5 years later to see if they warrant a renewal of trust.

    Focus on tomorrow and how to make life better for the generations to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon88 View Post
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    In Africa, more precisely in Zimbabwe a dictator has been in power for 50 years.
    He controls a large secret police the country and people. He and his family clan and minions lives
    in untold wealth. Every 5 years, there are pseudo elections. (Monkey Theater) The people must choose.
    An opposition and free media does not exist. The opposition is suppressed and made and destroyed muzzled
    with staged courts. Censorship on all channels, day after day. He wins as ever and the people cheered.
    Amen
    This is not a good comparison. In Zimbabwe, the majority of the population is living in poverty. In Singapore, most of the us are affluent, well to do, etc.

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    Has anyone ever written a book on why the man in white can always dominant Singapore as far as time is concerned?

    In order to understand, one must really know or study history.

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    There won't be real democracy in Singapore, even at SG100 and beyond.

    The democracy that Dr Chee is pursuing will never happen in Singapore. He failed to understand human behavioral, policies to consolidate the power and many more since independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukitimah View Post
    Focus on tomorrow and how to make life better for the generations to come.
    This is the most positive post I've read.

    Succession for the next generation of leaders to take over is now in place.

    The new faces you'll see in the coming cabinet will lead Singapore to a future of jobs, security, stability and consensus for many generations to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi View Post
    Has anyone ever written a book on why the man in white can always dominant Singapore as far as time is concerned?

    In order to understand, one must really know or study history.
    It has been written in 512BC in 孙子兵法.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sammy888 View Post
    Opposition did not choose the time for the election. We were suppose to do this next year (5th year cycle) not now which was changed by the ruling party. If this was US, would Obama and the democrat allow the Republican to change the 4 year duration because they feel like it? heheh
    The party has Sun Tsu has their strategist:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    It has been written in 512BC in 孙子兵法.

    Glad that you brought it up.

    Our old leaders have already started planning 50 years ago for the next 100 years and beyond. Their visionaries are far beyond the opposition can think of and match of.

    Opposition defeats is inevitable and almost certain. It won't change at least for the next 50 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi View Post
    Glad that you brought it up.

    Our old leaders have already started planning 50 years ago for the next 100 years and beyond. Their visionaries are far beyond the opposition can think of and match of.

    Opposition defeats is inevitable and almost certain. It won't change at least for the next 50 years.
    You give human too much credit... regardless who ever that might be. It is about understanding human nature and how to use that to get to a certain lever of social construct conditioning and then it become something very hard to break. History has seen that happen too many times and it can go on and on and the only thing that can break it usually usual involve revolution. History of the world has many example of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi View Post
    This is not a good comparison. In Zimbabwe, the majority of the population is living in poverty. In Singapore, most of the us are affluent, well to do, etc.
    Poverty you define it as a trap that keep them from breaking the cycle. Having too much in itself is also it's own trap that prevent you from breaking the (comfort) cycle. When you understand that, you can control a situation without a need for a bared wired fence to keep everyone inside the perimeter.
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    Look at how the opposition candidates portray themselves to the public.

    In 2011, the hot favorite Nicole Seah from NSP vs Tin Pei Ling. What happened after the GE2011, Nicole Seah chickened out, sighting cannot take stress, etc while Tin Pei Ling persisted on despite all the critics. Tin Pei Ling deserved the landslide victory at MacPherson in this GE2015. She has shown the residents of MacPherson and other Singaporeans that she is determined, perseverance, etc compared to Nicole Seah.

    Now in GE2015, our dear WP Lim Li Lian from Punggol East who had lost to Charles announced that she won't take up the NMP position and would retire from politics by becoming a full time homemaker. What does this say about her and her party? Extreme negative. Just because of 1 defeat, and you chickened out. This clearly showed that you do not mean what you said, that is to serve the people. You have let the voters down who have supported you in this GE even though you didn't win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammy888 View Post
    You give human too much credit... regardless who ever that might be. It is about understanding human nature and how to use that to get to a certain lever of social construct conditioning and then it become something very hard to break. History has seen that happen too many times and it can go on and on and the only thing that can break it usually usual involve revolution. History of the world has many example of that.
    Our old leaders have already started planning long time ago, not now.

    If you think deeper, you will know why the man in white will always be the dominance force in Singapore. It is not by coincidence, but through careful planning and strategies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    The party has Sun Tsu has their strategist:


    hehe I am a big fan of the Art of War by Sun Tze. But especially in peace time and when practice on your own nation where the rule of law and practice are observed and a means that all including your opposing peers are held to the same standards. Certain trivia matters, you can change around but matters concerning the right to rule should be almost sacred. To do otherwise is very telling as to what can be make law today.... will be as easily justified and broken in the next. Whatever that may be. Right or Wrong, It's very telling.

    There are other saying from the Masterful General that run counter to that too. heheh
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    Please do respect candidates decision since the majority have made their choice. It took lots of courage and sacrifices to enter politics. More so for opposition. They have done what many who are unhappy but didn't want to scarify to come forward. Whether you agree or disagree with their views are I material since we, Singaporeans have made our choice.

    OK to discuss but life moves on. Decide again 5 years later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi View Post
    Our old leaders have already started planning long time ago, not now.

    If you think deeper, you will know why the man in white will always be the dominance force in Singapore. It is not by coincidence, but through careful planning and strategies.

    But of course... it is because I did think deeper. heheh... It's not rocket science.
    A good photo's 45% you, 45% practice & 10% equipment. A bad photo share the same ratio.

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