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    Default Four Thirds vs 35mm Legacy....

    Hiee Pals..

    Just to have some thoughts from everyone....is it me or is it really that the image comparison is not a good one...http://www.olympus-esystem.com/dea/t...ts/popup2.html

    Looks like the 4/3rds seems to suffer form bad purple and green fringing....
    Though the "squareness of coverage is well described i.e it being able to campture the corners better......but... isn't the corners contain less info....

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    i think it should be the noise.

    bad purple and green fringing.. without any light source?

    anyway! zuiko digital are known for its sharpness from centre to the edge!
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    doesn't seem to have very much difference..... and that's at the very corner and very amplified....

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    somwbody posted before that 4/3 is crappy

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    Quote Originally Posted by user111
    somwbody posted before that 4/3 is crappy
    those who still using it are crappy users?

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    By right the digital should be sharper as its cropped (somemore cropped 2x) but on the 2 test shots, I don't see any significant difference leh..
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    Quote Originally Posted by icarus
    By right the digital should be sharper as its cropped (somemore cropped 2x) but on the 2 test shots, I don't see any significant difference leh..
    for sharpness in cropping will depends on the software used, some softwares will make it even softer than the original.

    the difference from those shots from zuiko or 35mm lens are:
    " The distortion and unclear shape of the letters can be seen" as quoted from the source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sulhan
    Just to have some thoughts from everyone....is it me or is it really that the image comparison is not a good one...http://www.olympus-esystem.com/dea/t...ts/popup2.html
    What this test compares is the performance of specific lenses. One could compare good 35mm lenses vs. bad 4/3 lenses, or bad 35mm lenses vs. good 4/3 lenses. It has nothing to do with sensor format or lens mount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user111
    somwbody posted before that 4/3 is crappy
    4/3 is an open standard in digital photography just like OSI model. What's so crappy about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by user111
    somwbody posted before that 4/3 is crappy
    hey man, can you please give it some thought before you post..
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    Quote Originally Posted by icarus
    By right the digital should be sharper as its cropped (somemore cropped 2x) but on the 2 test shots, I don't see any significant difference leh..
    You noticed those big mamas made by Oly? Zooms with constant f/2. Fully exploit the construction of 4/3 standard. We can yak so much about APS/DX digital, Oly seems to be the company that dropped everything and adopted 4/3 developed with Kodak. Its open and any maker can adopt it and we have equipment that can be used interchangeably indepandant of makers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djork
    hey man, can you please give it some thought before you post..
    Yah, we can comment about how well a standard is being recieved. I believe 4/3 is about 2 years plus, but not many big makers support it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djork
    hey man, can you please give it some thought before you post..
    I cant! cos i am one of the crappy ones! it is so crappy that i have to get more of the lenses they are producing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litefoot
    ... Zooms with constant f/2. Fully exploit the construction of 4/3 standard. We can yak so much about APS/DX digital, Oly seems to be the company that dropped everything and adopted 4/3 developed .... .
    one of the benefits is that ALL the lenses being designed for the system give us 'nice' FOV ranges (not to mention corner to corner sharpness, whatever minimal distortion/vignetting/CA info stored in lens for easy correction in oly studio)... unlike legacy lenses which all end up with wierld ranges especially with their best pro lenses( 28-70 becomes 45-112 etc)... canon's ef-s lenses are not L class quality and using full-frame is costly and u still have poor corners and vignetting... nikon's DX range is better with some nice bright zooms but still no where as many and as good as thier 'legacy' lens....
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    Quote Originally Posted by litefoot
    You noticed those big mamas made by Oly? Zooms with constant f/2. Fully exploit the construction of 4/3 standard. We can yak so much about APS/DX digital, Oly seems to be the company that dropped everything and adopted 4/3 developed with Kodak. Its open and any maker can adopt it and we have equipment that can be used interchangeably indepandant of makers.
    Yup... Nikon yak so much, so far their DX series of lenses mostly cant make it...
    sigh
    Hope Nikon can follow oly and give us better quality DX lenses (assuming they really not making FF DSLR)
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    Quote Originally Posted by icarus
    Yup... Nikon yak so much, so far their DX series of lenses mostly cant make it...
    sigh
    Hope Nikon can follow oly and give us better quality DX lenses (assuming they really not making FF DSLR)
    Perhaps you can explain why you said that "...mostly cannot make it..."? As far as I can gather from the web forums, they are quite good. The 17-55 is excellent. The 12-24 is very good. The 18-70 is good value for money.

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    Default Re: Four Thirds vs 35mm Legacy....

    Quote Originally Posted by icarus
    Yup... Nikon yak so much, so far their DX series of lenses mostly cant make it...
    sigh
    Hope Nikon can follow oly and give us better quality DX lenses (assuming they really not making FF DSLR)
    I'll have to disagree on your statements. the 10.5DX is a wonderful piece of glass. The 17-55 is inbetween 17-35 and 28-70 in quality, 12-24 performs nicely at f5.6-f/8.

    Event the lately 55-200DX is an awesome performer for it's price. Not forgetting the 18-70DX too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jumbocrab
    Perhaps you can explain why you said that "...mostly cannot make it..."? As far as I can gather from the web forums, they are quite good. The 17-55 is excellent. The 12-24 is very good. The 18-70 is good value for money.
    I am speaking from my actual hands-on experience with the four DX lenses, i don't wanna argue what DX lens is better or what, this has been argued to the death on the forums esp. on the 12-24 lens Just felt that Nikon can give us more exciting range of DX lenses if they are gonna stick with the DX sensor format. Where are my large aperture DX prime lenses??
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    Quote Originally Posted by espn
    I'll have to disagree on your statements. the 10.5DX is a wonderful piece of glass. The 17-55 is inbetween 17-35 and 28-70 in quality, 12-24 performs nicely at f5.6-f/8.

    Event the lately 55-200DX is an awesome performer for it's price. Not forgetting the 18-70DX too.
    i think the only good DX lens is the 17-55, and that comes at a monsterous price
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    Quote Originally Posted by icarus
    i think the only good DX lens is the 17-55, and that comes at a monsterous price
    Dun go into that vicious cycle again lah. I learnt it the hard way...

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