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Old 26th September 2005   #1
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Default Horseman LD... available in Singapore?

Hi guys,

Was reading a magazine when I came across a tiny article revealing the Horseman LD, LF style camera with a Canon/Nikon DSLR as a back...

Just wondering if it's available in Singapore and how much would one of these babies cost...

Thanks!
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Old 27th September 2005   #2
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Originally Posted by enivre
Hi guys,

Was reading a magazine when I came across a tiny article revealing the Horseman LD, LF style camera with a Canon/Nikon DSLR as a back...

Just wondering if it's available in Singapore and how much would one of these babies cost...

Thanks!
Ervine
Call Cathay photo, they are the agent for Horseman
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Old 27th September 2005   #3
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Default Re: Horseman LD... available in Singapore?

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Hi guys,

Was reading a magazine when I came across a tiny article revealing the Horseman LD, LF style camera with a Canon/Nikon DSLR as a back...

Just wondering if it's available in Singapore and how much would one of these babies cost...

Thanks!
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ervine - u can try PMing student. he's our resident LF user. he might be able to point u in the right direction.
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Old 27th September 2005   #4
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ervine - u can try PMing student. he's our resident LF user. he might be able to point u in the right direction.
Thanks bro...
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Old 27th September 2005   #5
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I just did a Google search, saw a the Horseman LD, this is noting new, just only have a lens board and a back that can mount the modern DSLR lens and bodies, and enable them to use the bellow functions. Btw, many other view cameras also able to adapt using 120 or 35mm bodies.

Please bear in mind that you can’t focus to infinity if you using an existing wide-angle lens with this set up. So you can’t do an architectural or interior shot with this, but can use this for tabletop still life or product shots.

How about using large format wide-angle lens? Yes, you can focus at infinity with large format lens, but the widest wide-angle lens for large format is 45mm and Horseman recommend to use 90mm and above for this camera.


Another looks very nice but with limited use camera.
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Originally Posted by catchlights
I just did a Google search, saw a the Horseman LD, this is noting new, just only have a lens board and a back that can mount the modern DSLR lens and bodies, and enable them to use the bellow functions. Btw, many other view cameras also able to adapt using 120 or 35mm bodies.

Please bear in mind that you can’t focus to infinity if you using an existing wide-angle lens with this set up. So you can’t do an architectural or interior shot with this, but can use this for tabletop still life or product shots.

How about using large format wide-angle lens? Yes, you can focus at infinity with large format lens, but the widest wide-angle lens for large format is 45mm and Horseman recommend to use 90mm and above for this camera.


Another looks very nice but with limited use camera.
Really? What other cameras offer such an adapter?

Also, why can't you focus to infinity? Confused...
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most 4x5 cameras are just a light tight bellows with a lens board in front to hold the lens and a holder behind to hold the film.
Just fabricate a simple mount for the camera of your choice onto a plan metal plate that is sized to fit the 4x5 camera of your choice and thats it .

You cannot focus to infinity with the 35mm lens cause they will be mounted further from the film plan then the designer intended the lens to be ... so no infinity focus
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most 4x5 cameras are just a light tight bellows with a lens board in front to hold the lens and a holder behind to hold the film.
Just fabricate a simple mount for the camera of your choice onto a plan metal plate that is sized to fit the 4x5 camera of your choice and thats it .

You cannot focus to infinity with the 35mm lens cause they will be mounted further from the film plan then the designer intended the lens to be ... so no infinity focus
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Originally Posted by ratboy
most 4x5 cameras are just a light tight bellows with a lens board in front to hold the lens and a holder behind to hold the film.
Just fabricate a simple mount for the camera of your choice onto a plan metal plate that is sized to fit the 4x5 camera of your choice and thats it .

You cannot focus to infinity with the 35mm lens cause they will be mounted further from the film plan then the designer intended the lens to be ... so no infinity focus
Interesting!.. can consider...

but considering the size of the CCD on a 35mm DSLR.. won't the crop factor be insane if I use LF lens?

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Old 28th September 2005   #10
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yup ... but you also can get extreme movements : )

gain some lose some ...
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Old 28th September 2005   #11
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yup ... but you also can get extreme movements : )

gain some lose some ...
aiyah like that... then not much point... imagine the crop factor might be 5x or more!
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Old 29th September 2005   #12
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thats how it works in LF
heres a cheap ( almost free ) solution
You can use the rear shift up down / left right
to take multiple images
then go back and stitch together
walah .... full frame coverage : )
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Old 29th September 2005   #13
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Originally Posted by ratboy
thats how it works in LF
heres a cheap ( almost free ) solution
You can use the rear shift up down / left right
to take multiple images
then go back and stitch together
walah .... full frame coverage : )
Provided he is using lenses that have a big images circle coverage.
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Old 29th September 2005   #14
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nope .. but he plans to use 35mm digi slr mounted on 4x5
so almost any 4x5 lens got excessive coverage for 35mm DSLR mah
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nope .. but he plans to use 35mm digi slr mounted on 4x5
so almost any 4x5 lens got excessive coverage for 35mm DSLR mah
that's true.. but imagine I want to take an interior.. shooting with a 90mm LF lens and I need to take like 20 photos before I can get enough coverage... quite silly...
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Old 30th September 2005   #16
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Actually there even 28mm lens and others up to 120mm design to be use on large format camera for these purposes. The image circle of these lens will only fit digital back for 645 or smaller sensors. These optics are very expensive. As they have more resolution power then the normal large format lenes. Here are some schneider stuff of these quality http://www.schneideroptics.com/photo...l_photography/
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Old 30th September 2005   #17
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Originally Posted by singscott
Actually there even 28mm lens and others up to 120mm design to be use on large format camera for these purposes. The image circle of these lens will only fit digital back for 645 or smaller sensors. These optics are very expensive. As they have more resolution power then the normal large format lenes. Here are some schneider stuff of these quality http://www.schneideroptics.com/photo...l_photography/
So in the end will end up paying more to use a DSLR on an LF body huh?
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Old 1st October 2005   #18
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Errr You can say that But they are also design for other digital sensor like medium digital back on the large format. Well it alot cheaper to put a canon 1 DS DSLR on a large format then buy a high end digital backs. I guess each got it own merits
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