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    Hi, I just bought a D50 not long and I got a question about the dull colours of the camera. I took a picture of the sky outside my flat this morning, and on the camera LCD the colors look nice. brilliant blue sky. But when I view it on my PC monitor, it looks very dull.



    My first thought was that maybe my monitor wasn't color calibrated so I used adobe gamma to calibrate. It still looked dull. Anyone can help? Why does it look ok on the camera monitor but not the PC monitor?

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    can share the exif data as well? easier to point out the problem.

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    Do not rely on LCD preview, learn to judge the exposure by reading the histogram.

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    Extracted from the image:

    f/14
    1/2000 sec
    Spot metering
    Exposure Compensation: None

    I think its the metering that caused your photo to be underexposed, spot metering is used in very special circumstances. It would be better if you switched it to evaluative/matrix or something like that.

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    File: - C:\Documents and Settings\Alfred\My Documents\My Pictures\t\DSC_3496.JPG

    Make - NIKON CORPORATION
    Model - NIKON D50
    Orientation - Top left
    XResolution - 300
    YResolution - 300
    ResolutionUnit - Inch
    Software - Ver.1.00
    DateTime - 2005:09:17 12:20:52
    YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited
    ExifOffset - 216
    ExposureTime - 1/2000 seconds
    FNumber - 14.00
    ExposureProgram - Normal program
    ExifVersion - 0221
    DateTimeOriginal - 2005:09:17 12:20:52
    DateTimeDigitized - 2005:09:17 12:20:52
    ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr
    CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4 (bits/pixel)
    ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
    MaxApertureValue - F 4.00
    MeteringMode - Spot
    LightSource - Auto
    Flash - Not fired
    FocalLength - 31.00 mm
    UserComment -
    SubsecTime - 0
    SubsecTimeOriginal - 0
    SubsecTimeDigitized - 0
    FlashPixVersion - 0100
    ColorSpace - sRGB
    ExifImageWidth - 3008
    ExifImageHeight - 2000
    InteroperabilityOffset - 27778
    SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor
    FileSource - Other
    SceneType - Other
    CustomRendered - Normal process
    ExposureMode - Auto
    WhiteBalance - Auto
    DigitalZoomRatio - 1 x
    FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 46 mm
    SceneCaptureType - Standard
    GainControl - Low gain up
    Contrast - Normal
    Saturation - Normal
    Sharpness - Normal
    SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown

    Maker Note (Vendor): -
    Data version - 0210 (808595760)
    ISO Setting - 800
    Image Quality - FINE
    White Balance - AUTO
    Image Sharpening - AUTO
    Focus Mode - AF-A
    Flash Setting - NORMAL
    Flash Mode -
    White Balance Adjustment -
    Exposure Adjustment - 
    Flash Compensation - 
    ISO 2 - 
    Tone Compensation - AUTO
    Lens type - AF
    Lens - ~
    Flash Used - Not fired
    AF Focus Position - Center
    Bracketing -
    Color Mode - MODE1a
    Light Type - NATURAL
    Hue Adjustment -
    Noise Reduction - OFF
    Total pictures -
    Optimization - CUSTOM

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    Default Re: D50 dull pictures question

    Quote Originally Posted by n0d3
    Extracted from the image:

    f/14
    1/2000 sec
    Spot metering
    Exposure Compensation: None

    I think its the metering that caused your photo to be underexposed, spot metering is used in very special circumstances. It would be better if you switched it to evaluative/matrix or something like that.
    In this case the white cloud be came 18% gray, so that how it is underexpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights
    Do not rely on LCD preview, learn to judge the exposure by reading the histogram.
    that's right, and different situations will give different histograms, one that peaks in the middle isn't always the 'right' exposure

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    Quote Originally Posted by red_ryder
    File: - C:\Documents and Settings\Alfred\My Documents\My Pictures\t\DSC_3496.JPG

    Make - NIKON CORPORATION
    Model - NIKON D50
    Orientation - Top left
    XResolution - 300
    YResolution - 300
    ResolutionUnit - Inch
    Software - Ver.1.00
    DateTime - 2005:09:17 12:20:52
    YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited
    ExifOffset - 216
    ExposureTime - 1/2000 seconds
    FNumber - 14.00
    ExposureProgram - Normal program
    ExifVersion - 0221
    DateTimeOriginal - 2005:09:17 12:20:52
    DateTimeDigitized - 2005:09:17 12:20:52
    ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr
    CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4 (bits/pixel)
    ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
    MaxApertureValue - F 4.00
    MeteringMode - Spot
    LightSource - Auto
    Flash - Not fired
    FocalLength - 31.00 mm
    UserComment -
    SubsecTime - 0
    SubsecTimeOriginal - 0
    SubsecTimeDigitized - 0
    FlashPixVersion - 0100
    ColorSpace - sRGB
    ExifImageWidth - 3008
    ExifImageHeight - 2000
    InteroperabilityOffset - 27778
    SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor
    FileSource - Other
    SceneType - Other
    CustomRendered - Normal process
    ExposureMode - Auto
    WhiteBalance - Auto
    DigitalZoomRatio - 1 x
    FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 46 mm
    SceneCaptureType - Standard
    GainControl - Low gain up
    Contrast - Normal
    Saturation - Normal
    Sharpness - Normal
    SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown

    Maker Note (Vendor): -
    Data version - 0210 (808595760)
    ISO Setting - 800
    Image Quality - FINE
    White Balance - AUTO
    Image Sharpening - AUTO
    Focus Mode - AF-A
    Flash Setting - NORMAL
    Flash Mode -
    White Balance Adjustment -
    Exposure Adjustment - 
    Flash Compensation - 
    ISO 2 - 
    Tone Compensation - AUTO
    Lens type - AF
    Lens - ~
    Flash Used - Not fired
    AF Focus Position - Center
    Bracketing -
    Color Mode - MODE1a
    Light Type - NATURAL
    Hue Adjustment -
    Noise Reduction - OFF
    Total pictures -
    Optimization - CUSTOM

    wow ... can just post the key info next time

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights
    In this case the white cloud be came 18% gray, so that how it is underexpose.
    Ahhh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin
    wow ... can just post the key info next time
    oops sorry, didn't which was key info.

    So the problem is spot metering? Thanks guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin
    that's right, and different situations will give different histograms, one that peaks in the middle isn't always the 'right' exposure
    yes, agreed, that't why ones need to "learn" how to "read".

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    Heres a site which I just found, quite useful for understanding some aspects of metering:

    http://www.photozone.de/4Technique/metering.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights
    No, the problem is not spot metering, the problem is you don't know how to take mater reading.

    In a simple term: you can find a place that you want to expose as 18% (mid tone gray) take the reading of that place and make an expose.

    for this case, how about taking a spot metering off the red roof of the terrace house?

    The problem is that I didn't know spot metering was on. Thoguht it was matrix or centre weighted. Didn't check before shooting. I know how to use spot metering, but thanks for the advice anyway.

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    hm.. any site to teach how to read histogram ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by n0d3
    Heres a site which I just found, quite useful for understanding some aspects of metering:

    http://www.photozone.de/4Technique/metering.htm

    Thanks for the link.


    ben77,

    searched the same site ... found this

    http://www.photozone.de/7Digital/histogram.htm

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