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Old 14th September 2005   #1
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Default Off focus or hand shake?

I took this a few days back using my fz5. It was high up on a tree, so i had to fully zoom.
On the cam's LCD screen it look ok but once i went back home and cropped, the bird is blur. I had lots of difficulty focusing and took many picutres before i got a "okay" one. So is the blur because of the focusing or my handshake? Any ways to improve this?

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Old 14th September 2005   #2
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Default Re: Off focus or hand shake?

since i dun see anywhere with a sharp point, i think it should be camera shake...
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Old 14th September 2005   #3
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u need a tripod for such shots, i had the same experience till i went to invest in a good tripod
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Old 14th September 2005   #4
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Default Re: Off focus or hand shake?

Pardon me, but I thought that was off-focus? I've tried to take a huge spider in-between the tree branches in one of the parks, and no matter how I zoom, the camera seems to be confused on where to focus on! Pity FZ5 does not have (real) manual focus.
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Old 14th September 2005   #5
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Default Re: Off focus or hand shake?

hmm..

could it because of the use of wrong apeture ???

i am no expert but my 1st sight was like.. the little branches is more "sharp" than the bird..

maybe i was wrong..

for me, i sometime focus on the wrong object and then i take the pic..

correct me pls..

nice try thru
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Old 15th September 2005   #6
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Default Re: Off focus or hand shake?

lools like out of focus to me.
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Old 15th September 2005   #7
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me too.. seems like out of focus for me..
but hey.. if your original file is big... you can use Unsharp mask in photoshop.. it could save such shots.
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Old 15th September 2005   #8
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Default Re: Off focus or hand shake?

There is a chance of camera shake since you are shooting a 1/30s
at 432mm max zoom even though FZ5 has OIS function.

Try increasing your shutter speed to abt 1/100s and above see if that will help.
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Old 15th September 2005   #9
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Default Re: Off focus or hand shake?

I would guess it is a combination of out of focus and hand shake, probably 80% out focus and 20% handshake.
1. u probably press the shutter too early before the camera confirm focus lock (most digicam would have a LED light to show focus confirmed and locked)
2. yr shutter speed maybe too slow and u hand holding the camera, tend to hand shake
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Old 15th September 2005   #10
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Default Re: Off focus or hand shake?

You are shooting at only ISO 80 and full zoom will shutter speed of only 1/30. At full zoom 432mm or similar situations, when see such slow speed switch to shutter mode and set speed of at least 1/100. Your resulting photos may be dark/under but always can go back and ps.
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A generic fomula to calculate Shutter speed is 1 / focal lenght.

But I seldom remember this fomula. Cos of the OIS.
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Old 15th September 2005   #12
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It's a combination of both...


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Old 15th September 2005   #13
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Default Re: Off focus or hand shake?

Ya.. At first i thought i was off focus. But then i realised the branches was also not very sharp. BTW, the light turn green before i pressed the shutter.
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Old 15th September 2005   #14
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Up the ISO, use flash, and go nearer.
Sure get a nice sharp birdie!
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Default Re: Off focus or hand shake?

Originally Posted by rhair78
Up the ISO, use flash, and go nearer.
Sure get a nice sharp birdie!
fz5 up ISO too much will make pic become mark lee's face haha

can i ask, that other than obvious improve in sharpness if u take at higher spd
would it also results in lost of color quality???
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Default Re: Off focus or hand shake?

Originally Posted by dts_spawn
Ya.. At first i thought i was off focus. But then i realised the branches was also not very sharp. BTW, the light turn green before i pressed the shutter.
Maybe it's off focus, maybe it's hand shake... or maybe it's the camera's fault with its focusing . Taken from dpreview...

"......In our extensive real-world testing we only found a few minor problems - the occasional focus error when shooting quickly at full zoom....... It should be noted, however, that the 'hit rate' is very high; I would guess only 1 in 100 shots had a problem serious enough to ruin the shot, and nearly all these were when shooting at the extreme long end of the zoom......"

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Old 16th September 2005   #17
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Default Re: Off focus or hand shake?

Originally Posted by fuse
fz5 up ISO too much will make pic become mark lee's face haha

can i ask, that other than obvious improve in sharpness if u take at higher spd
would it also results in lost of color quality???
I don't think colour will be affected by the shutter speed.
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Old 16th September 2005   #18
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Originally Posted by dts_spawn
I don't think colour will be affected by the shutter speed.
thanks!!!
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Old 17th September 2005   #19
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Default Re: Off focus or hand shake?

Originally Posted by rhair78
Up the ISO, use flash, and go nearer.
Sure get a nice sharp birdie!
Go nearer? How to?
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Old 17th September 2005   #20
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use spot metering..just saw yr exif u used multi-seg metering
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