Lens plan

[zcf]

Newbie on DSLR D5D, so currently I still not very sure on what lens to acquire.

Currently I have:
18-70mm (kit lens)
50mm f1.4 for portraits and low light in door shooting.

Now I am thinking of getting:
18-200mm as a walk around lens, athough the quality may not be got and slow in low light. But it's about a all in one lens.

But I do need a tele lens now, the 18-70mm is not enough for me, the 18-200mm quality won't be good from 150-200mm range. So I am thinking of Sigma 70-300mm APO Macro or similar tele-lens like KM 100-300mm (not f4, heard is slightly better quality). But Sigma is a plus as it got macro, and I do need a macro lens. But both are not serious for sport shooting.

May get a good wide angle lens in the future. Not needed currently unless I go travelling.

Need to get a flash also, possibly 5600 for event/fashion shoot.

Any comment or suggestion on my lens plan?

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

Originally Posted by zcf Newbie on DSLR D5D, so currently I still not very sure on what lens to acquire. Currently I have: 18-70mm (kit lens) 50mm f1.4 for portraits and low light in door shooting. Now I am thinking of getting: 18-200mm as a walk around lens, athough the quality may not be got and slow in low light. But it's about a all in one lens. But I do need a tele lens now, the 18-70mm is not enough for me, the 18-200mm quality won't be good from 150-200mm range. So I am thinking of Sigma 70-300mm APO Macro or similar tele-lens like KM 100-300mm (not f4, heard is slightly better quality). But Sigma is a plus as it got macro, and I do need a macro lens. But both are not serious for sport shooting. May get a good wide angle lens in the future. Not needed currently unless I go travelling. Need to get a flash also, possibly 5600 for event/fashion shoot. Any comment or suggestion on my lens plan?

depends on your budget & also your quality perception...

i prefer to have more specific range, like Wide, Mid Range, Telephoto for each of its needs.

if you got a 18-70 dun get a 18-200 1st, get a 70-300 / 70-200, then get a 18-200 if you got extra spare cash. or if you into wide angles, get a 17-35, it will be better than the 18-70 at that 17-35 range, den get another 28-75, den can drop the 18-70 in dry cabi.

[Drudkh]

seriously, the KM18-70 is no match for both KM17-35 & KM28-75 previously released. once you used it, you'll feel like keeping the 18-70 in the dry cabinet. as for the tele lens, sigma 70-300 is a good start until one day you'll definitely change it.

[muko]

Guys.. please teach me... i am thinking the same idea having a handy lens of 18-200.

so effectively 18-200 is it only 35-150? How bad is it actually?
Don also commenting the same thing. Is it really no good at the edge of the range like that?
What is the effect actually? I really have no experience...

actually i'm thinking of having the 18-200 instead of the 18-70 (assuming 5D have body only, have body only right?).

[zcf]

Thanks for the replies, currently still don't know how toappreciate the real quality of the lens and the output --> photo, and not sure it justify the price or not, although I do aware the kit lens quality is definitely cannoot compare to those specific range.

But I do afraid I am moving too fast and buying too much . I also can't think of bring all the lens out everytime and so they won't be much utilised. The 18-200mm do come in hand for day to day shot, though the quality may not be very good.

How does the Sigma 17-35mm EX f2.8-4.0 at B&S compare to KM 17-35mm one? Seem like a real bargain, really Tempted.

So the plan is
18-200mm
50mm f1.4
70-300mm macro

Otherwise, the plan would be:

17-35mm
50mm f1.4
70-300mm macro
these would cover quite a big range but miss out the 36-70, but hope the 50mm will help.
Which would be better?
I can only imagine myself to bring 3 lenses out most for shooting (plus flash later)

[Drudkh]

Originally Posted by muko Guys.. please teach me... i am thinking the same idea having a handy lens of 18-200. so effectively 18-200 is it only 35-150? How bad is it actually? Don also commenting the same thing. Is it really no good at the edge of the range like that? What is the effect actually? I really have no experience... actually i'm thinking of having the 18-200 instead of the 18-70 (assuming 5D have body only, have body only right?).

Hi muko, 18-200 is a good range, but you'll have to sacrifice the photo sharpness/quality) at the biggest aperture (f/4.5 at 18mm and f/6.3 at 200mm). apply the 1.5X crop will give you approx 27-300mm.

[zcf]

hmm... may be plus a 2X TC

[Drudkh]

Originally Posted by zcf hmm... may be plus a 2X TC

you'll regret. if you're joining me this weekend, i'll let yuo try a 2X TC.

[zcf]

Originally Posted by Drudkh you'll regret. if you're joining me this weekend, i'll let yuo try a 2X TC.

Thanks Don, tried your TC on KMOS outing, seem to work OK on the 50mm f1.4 end up 100mm f3.5. Indeed the kit lens cannot make it on the 2X TC, very slow and dark, not sure it will work on 17-35mm or not .
This weekend I still not sure I can make it or not, that's why I hasn't replied.

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

Originally Posted by zcf Thanks Don, tried your TC on KMOS outing, seem to work OK on the 50mm f1.4 end up 100mm f3.5. Indeed the kit lens cannot make it on the 2X TC, very slow and dark, not sure it will work on 17-35mm or not . This weekend I still not sure I can make it or not, that's why I hasn't replied.

y would you wanna use a 2x TC on a wide angle lens?

[Drudkh]

Originally Posted by zcf Thanks Don, tried your TC on KMOS outing, seem to work OK on the 50mm f1.4 end up 100mm f3.5. Indeed the kit lens cannot make it on the 2X TC, very slow and dark, not sure it will work on 17-35mm or not . This weekend I still not sure I can make it or not, that's why I hasn't replied.

oh, why you want to use it on a 50 1.4?
that 2X TC was TME's.

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

dun think i'll be using the 50-500 this weekend... haiz... but den i also dun wanna lend... hehehehehehe... wanna shoot, cannot shoot... this kinda feeling really...

[zcf]

Originally Posted by Drudkh oh, why you want to use it on a 50 1.4? that 2X TC was TME's.

opps, now I remember , sorry to TME.

may be as a 100mm f3.5 for portrait, candid or low light condition shoot
for the 70-300mm as well. Actually was trying to look for 1.4X TC, but can't seem to find it anywhere.

[Drudkh]

1.4? Cathay Photo should have.

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

Originally Posted by zcf opps, now I remember , sorry to TME. may be as a 100mm f3.5 for portrait, candid or low light condition shoot for the 70-300mm as well. Actually was trying to look for 1.4X TC, but can't seem to find it anywhere.

tat extra piece of glass not only make the lens slow & dark, it also makes the quality drop...

the 2x is mostly used on the 70-200 f2.8, cos its bright enough to slow down to 400 f5.6, still acceptable.

[zcf]

Originally Posted by Drudkh 1.4? Cathay Photo should have.

asked about 1-2 weeks ago, 1 old guy say don't have, but only the 2X only.

[zcf]

Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt tat extra piece of glass not only make the lens slow & dark, it also makes the quality drop... the 2x is mostly used on the 70-200 f2.8, cos its bright enough to slow down to 400 f5.6, still acceptable.

was thinking off using it as a cheap lens to shoot resting birds in day light, as I find last time even with the 432mm equivalent of my FZ5 also not enough.

[Drudkh]

Originally Posted by zcf asked about 1-2 weeks ago, 1 old guy say don't have, but only the 2X only.

got try MS Color? TK Foto? John 3:16? TCW? Alan Photo?

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

Originally Posted by zcf was thinking off using it as a cheap lens to shoot resting birds in day light, as I find last time even with the 432mm equivalent of my FZ5 also not enough.

depends lah, cos you use a 70-200 x 2, 400 f5.6, den x1.5 crop factor, gives you 600mm f5.6 liao lor...

like they say, the 50-500, 500 f6.3, x1.5 crop is 750mm f6.3, is not as good as the 600mm f5.6, but what you pay is what you get... 70-200f2.8 sigma about 1.6k, 2x sigma about 400? so 2k liao, 50-500 about 1.8k nia... and after all, you still can use your 70-200f2.8 for portraits.

[zcf]

Tried TCW and AP, hasn't tried MS and John 3:16, not sure where is TK photo