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Old 5th September 2005   #1
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hey all X series users,

the X series cameras have sync flash speed at 1/60. if using longer lens how not to have hand shake huh? if assuming don't have any support.

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Originally Posted by pk2
hey all X series users,

the X series cameras have sync flash speed at 1/60. if using longer lens how not to have hand shake huh? if assuming don't have any support.

thanks
Up the ISO. Use a wider aperture.
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i had done that.... push up the iso and use f2.8 (largest aperture) but still not enough then how?
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find a wall/pillar/lamppost/dustbin/something big to help stabilise? lean your lens against these mentioned objects.
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Or use a tripod or monopod...
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Old 5th September 2005   #6
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i'm assuming no support.
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The subject blur or the background blur? If subject blur, maybe your flash not powerful enough, as flash should freeze the hand shake.. If background blurred, either use a faster film or tripod, not much other options already...
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Originally Posted by pk2
i'm assuming no support.

If u are at f/2.8, with flash and u can't use tripod support and u're on ISO800 or higher film and the picture is still blur, then just maybe u're probably not shooting the right way?

I assume X-series camera refers to X-700 series? Or are u referring to the Xt, Xg type digicams?
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Old 5th September 2005   #9
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Originally Posted by pk2
hey all X series users,

the X series cameras have sync flash speed at 1/60. if using longer lens how not to have hand shake huh? if assuming don't have any support.

thanks
try set self-timer & put that cam on a table, chair, half-wall, any solid structure, etc u can find den take ur pic. i too hav come across such situations where de light is jus 2 dim.

if de angle is not ideal, use coins & a card (eg MRT card) to construct a temp ram!!
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Old 6th September 2005   #10
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Another possibility is you might not have focussed correctly or you were not holding the camera correctly in a steady manner, as flash synch speed of 1/60 sec is quite ok for handheld shots... Perhaps the subject was moving too fast for the 1/60 sec to freeze also...
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and if really no choice
push the film to 3200 and get the lab to overdevelope 2 stops
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Originally Posted by ratboy
and if really no choice
push the film to 3200 and get the lab to overdevelope 2 stops

Can meh? ISO17000 is it?
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Old 6th September 2005   #13
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Can meh? ISO17000 is it?

hmm .. i somehow have the perception that he is using film camera ( x series )

anyway .. if digicam .. 2 stops up will be ( 3200 x 2 ) x 2 = 12800 : )

which is possible
just set to iso 3200
set compensation for meter to -2 stops
and when photoshop, up the level lor

just dun sue me if it dun work : )
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Old 6th September 2005   #14
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Originally Posted by ratboy
hmm .. i somehow have the perception that he is using film camera ( x series )

anyway .. if digicam .. 2 stops up will be ( 3200 x 2 ) x 2 = 12800 : )

which is possible
just set to iso 3200
set compensation for meter to -2 stops
and when photoshop, up the level lor

just dun sue me if it dun work : )
I tried. barely useable. best to use black/white mode. Then the pics are quite acceptable.

Cheers
QX

PS try doing that with a 50 f/1.4. Anytime is like daytime man
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Old 7th September 2005   #15
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i'm using the film camera X-series but not X-700s, that time cannot afford, so use a lower end than the X-700. And one more thing, now very hard to get a 50mm prime lens. anybody know where can get or anyone thinking to sell your 50mm prime lens (MD mount)? .please let me know. of course budget is a consideration....
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Old 7th September 2005   #16
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Originally Posted by ratboy
hmm .. i somehow have the perception that he is using film camera ( x series )

anyway .. if digicam .. 2 stops up will be ( 3200 x 2 ) x 2 = 12800 : )

which is possible
just set to iso 3200
set compensation for meter to -2 stops
and when photoshop, up the level lor

just dun sue me if it dun work : )
I think when you had take a few shots in a iso you will not change to another iso rite? if not the person developing the film will not know to push or not .
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Old 7th September 2005   #17
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I think when you had take a few shots in a iso you will not change to another iso rite? if not the person developing the film will not know to push or not .

rewind the roll and leave the leader out
use pen write on leader what shots you stopped at

Load in another and then use the new roll at new iso

you can alway reload the original roll,
using lens cap, set to manual and highest shutter speed
and just wind film & shoot, wind and shoot....
till overshot by one frame from what you have noted
on the leader prev lor ...

so can have many rolls at different iso,
can also change from b&w to color negs to color slides etc
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Old 8th September 2005   #18
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Originally Posted by ratboy
rewind the roll and leave the leader out
use pen write on leader what shots you stopped at

Load in another and then use the new roll at new iso

you can alway reload the original roll,
using lens cap, set to manual and highest shutter speed
and just wind film & shoot, wind and shoot....
till overshot by one frame from what you have noted
on the leader prev lor ...

so can have many rolls at different iso,
can also change from b&w to color negs to color slides etc
that's wat i've been doing... must have patient.
cheers
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