if you really want to lean the basic, what you need is discipline, not a film camera.
of course, telling people you are shooting on film is sound so cool, and slinging a film camera is more cool than a DSLR which is so common nowadays.
but don't forget shooting film is getting more costly nowadays, and unless you are shooting on slide film, else you don't how screw up is your exposure, (you are not experience enough to know had you nailed exposure by judging the density of negative film)
and unless you are keeping a shooting log, else how do you know what is your exposure setting for this frame that you shot three weeks ago?
so you tell me, if you can't get a proper feedback, what is there for you to learn?
for your info, you can use any DSLR to learn the basic, with using preset WB, manual exposure, smallest JPG format, manual focusing if you want to, don't chimp on LCD,
no delete photo on the spot, limit to 36 frames on an outing, don't post fix exposure or whatever.
when you review the photos on your computer, study the lighting, and also exif data.
you will learn much better, faster and save a lot of cost in this way.
Thanks for considering so many factors. I do intend to keep a separate log, every frame, every roll.
I'm seeing more and more reasons analogue is for me. Many of which had been asked as above.
Let me relay to you a little of my own personal history with cameras maybe it will even help you understand my enthusiasm for your thread. I have a fascination for mechanical things. I sort of found my way into photography as a serious hobby through microscopes and fish tanks which is another hobby of mine but I digress. You see I used old Carl Zeiss Jena microscopes from the 20's and 30's and through searching for them on places like Ebay I came across Zeiss rangefinder cameras. I had always loved cameras so I started buying up that stuff and studying the craft. Well turns out much of the rangefinder stuff that I preferred (stuff like the Leica M2 and MP or the new Zeiss Ikons) were beyond my means when considering the lenses and the rest of the kit. So then my study turned towards the SLR's chiefly the Nikon F2 with DE-1 Eye-level finder (that camera is in my avatar) and a real thorough study of the F mount lenses available for the system. These were within my means and soon enough I had my gear and was able to begin by learning the very basics...exposure triangle and sunny 16. A very difficult proposition for a beginner. After about 30 rolls of film or so I started to get the hang of it but the cost of film and processing not to mention the increasing difficulty of finding these services locally I finally decided to get something digital. I chose the Nikon D5000 because I already had a nice set of F mount glass and the D5000 was cheap, good, and compatible with my lenses. It has to be used on M mode with manual focusing with no meter but guess what? That is how I had already been shooting all along.
Currently I am thinking of purchasing a Nikon D7000 or D700 probably and a 35-70/2.8 AFD...I am ready to get lazy with my photography and I can still use my lenses plus they will meter with these camera models. If I had my druthers I would get a Df. I feel itis the best camera on the market for the money with the lenses I own. I have some rangefinder cameras that I will dig up some pictures of to show...my fixed lens stuff.
I still shoot my film cameras from time to time just to keep them working good.
Look at the FM Nikons...bad to the bone little units...mechanical. Also the F2 or F2AS if possible. Canon F-1 and FD lenses if your Canon. Olympus OM series is extremely nice!
Last edited by Nikonzen; 26th January 2015 at 12:42 PM.
Expand your mind or get left behind
Here are a couple of links for you to look over. I highly recommend the magazine Popular Photography aka Pop Photo. The second link is good old technical fundamental stuff bookmark that one for sure. The photographer in that one liked using rangefinders.
http://www.adammarelliphoto.com/2011/06/robert-capa/ (That whole Great Compositions section is an incredible treasure trove of information.)
Last edited by Nikonzen; 26th January 2015 at 01:58 PM.
Expand your mind or get left behind
Went down to city hall area earlier today. Was a total eye opener for me. So many different models! Nikon F3 that is so commonly mentioned seems to have different variations. F3T?? F3HP?? Simply overwhelming.
I think what I need to do is narrowing it down to just ONE specific body and lens, then either camp the personal classified section of the forum for those selling the specific model when I have the cash, or seek out a one-stop shop where the shop owner is also the shop tender, that is actually passionate about this himself/ herself. Peninsula/ excelsior seems to have a lot of shops doing this as just a means to earn.
One crucial thing I didn't ask about I think is the lenses. When looking, at film camera lenses what are the evaluating criterias?(other than it being a fast 50mm prime)
Great to see that someone who is so enthusiastic about film photography. As some of the fellow Clubsnappers have mentioned, A Bessa R will be a great option as it have a good range of lenses that are still in production. It might be worth considering later to get a SLR from either Nikon or Canon such as a F5/6 or EOS-1V to make use of the greater range of AF lenses available. If you are looking for a more classic camera, on top of the regular shops at Adelphi and Peninsular, you can also consider looking on auction sites. Cameras in great condition can be found on Ebay and even the 2nd hand section at BHphoto or Adorama. I have found some such as a Oly OM-1n, Hassie 501cm in great conditions from fellow enthusiasts in Japan and the States.