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    Students are really very rich today... Thanks to their parents that they can afford to look for such items.

    I like this phrase: "Student looking to invest in a set."

    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1485874

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    Quote Originally Posted by shierwin View Post
    Students are really very rich today... Thanks to their parents that they can afford to look for such items.

    I like this phrase: "Student looking to invest in a set."

    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1485874
    It could be this student work PT for the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by shierwin View Post
    Students are really very rich today... Thanks to their parents that they can afford to look for such items.

    I like this phrase: "Student looking to invest in a set."

    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1485874

    同人不同命.... why even want/need to compare... Comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shierwin View Post
    Students are really very rich today... Thanks to their parents that they can afford to look for such items. I like this phrase: "Student looking to invest in a set." http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1485874
    His first lesson in choosing bad investments......as in, cameras are consumer goods, not investments

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    Quote Originally Posted by shierwin View Post
    Students are really very rich today... Thanks to their parents that they can afford to look for such items.

    I like this phrase: "Student looking to invest in a set."

    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1485874
    according to my personal experience dealing in ClubSNAP buy and sell,

    when someone using student to describe themselves, usually means;
    "I'm look for something but I want it heavily discount,
    and I'm very busy with my study so I want you to teach me how to use,
    I will contact again you if I can remember,
    if you don't hear from me means I don't need it any more.
    you have to accept that I do not conform to the moral standard that adults practice, hey, I'm a student! do you remember?"
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    I dunno what's the intention of linking the student's C100 purchase to his/her parents, but let me guess:

    1) "wow, kids nowadays really know how to rip off their parents and get their money to buy expensive unnecessary stuffs".

    2) "students these days don't want and don't need to work, they can just open mouth and get their parents to buy whatever expensive stuffs for them".

    3) "this guy is posing as a student and trying to get ppl to sell equipment to him at low price".

    To be fair, we do not know the exact situation the student is in, and I don't see any need to link the purchase to his/her parents.

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    I don't see anything wrong / exorbitant with the student wanting to buy the C100 to learn video filming. In case you are unaware, ITEs are now teaching videography using the C300. Commercial shooters are using cameras such as C300/C500.

    C100 is the perfect platform for a student to grapple with the controls/functions and "feel" of the camera, so that they would know how to use the bigger brothers (C300/C500) when he/she graduates and works in commercial companies.

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    I also don't see anything wrong with his/her using of the word "investment". If he/she uses the equipment to learn a skill or even makes money out of it by shooting assignments, the C100 would be a super investment. Even if he/she doesn't earn a single cent of money - the knowledge he/she gains from using it is already a solid return on investment.

    The C100 would be a "consumer good" only if he/she purchases it and just put one corner - taking out less than 5 days a year to shoot, with the remaining days in the dry cabinet. I know tonnes of people who are like this: when a new camera comes out, they would go "wow, so powerful, so nice image!". But after they bought it, the camera stays in the dry cabinet >95% of the time. I know of a person spending ~$10k on a Leica M9 and 50mm f/0.95, only to spend time with it only in the house - he doesn't want to scratch it/injure it if he brings it out to shoot - this is a solid example of "consumer good". (btw, the camera and lens are kept in the leica boxes, which are then stored in the dry cabinet.)

    You can say "aiya, he/she's just a student, buy C100 for what". This would be the same argument for folks who buy digital SLRs instead of manual film cameras to learn photography as a student. Again, I don't see anything wrong with it, and no need to link money/parents to the equipment. In fact, the learning curve of a student with digital SLRs is shorted by tonnes as compared to manual film SLRs.

    The only thing important about the purchase is whether the person learns anything out of the purchase, but then again: it's none of our business, and no necessity to flag him/her out for scrutiny..

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    according to my personal experience dealing in ClubSNAP buy and sell,

    when someone using student to describe themselves, usually means;
    "I'm look for something but I want it heavily discount,
    and I'm very busy with my study so I want you to teach me how to use,
    I will contact again you if I can remember,
    if you don't hear from me means I don't need it any more.
    you have to accept that I do not conform to the moral standard that adults practice, hey, I'm a student! do you remember?"
    I've dealt with such stuff before, even without the person claiming to be a student. I've also just sold a lens to someone claiming to be a student today, and didn't have any problem.

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    Didn't know what a C100 is until I searched it. No lah, not that expensive. I think we've seen students who carry or own more expensive stuffs than that. When I was in school, there were students who drove more expensive cars than lecturers.

    Anyway, it's hard to infer from just one case that (all) students are rich and that their parents bought such items for them.

    If he is a film student, or if he is sharing the cam with someone else, it's reasonable.

    Quote Originally Posted by shierwin View Post
    Students are really very rich today... Thanks to their parents that they can afford to look for such items.

    I like this phrase: "Student looking to invest in a set."

    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1485874

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilry View Post
    I also don't see anything wrong with his/her using of the word "investment". If he/she uses the equipment to learn a skill or even makes money out of it by shooting assignments, the C100 would be a super investment. Even if he/she doesn't earn a single cent of money - the knowledge he/she gains from using it is already a solid return on investment.
    While I agree that one must spend and invest wisely, money is not the only measure of "investment".

    If that C100 can give more knowledge, skill, experience, social network, or simply personal satisfaction, IMO, it is an investment to some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shierwin View Post
    Students are really very rich today... Thanks to their parents that they can afford to look for such items.

    I like this phrase: "Student looking to invest in a set."

    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1485874
    Why must buy Canon?

    I think Pentax is the camera for students.


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    You should see the students at the private university where my wife works... $$$$$$$$$$$$$ X 10

    Last time I took a camera there I was accosted by University police. Being private property and all...I got the heck out of there...didn't get a single picture of a co ed! LOL

    They said "What are doing with that camera?" I say "Taking pictures of your beautiful architecture sir!" LMAO
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    Frankly, I don't see anything wrong with it.

    Whether the student himself or his family is rich doesn't make my life any happier or more miserable. It's mutually exclusive.

    Unless until I start to compare it with mine, and roll that avalanche of envious feeling. And strangely the world doesn't get any fairer a bit by that. It's just a waste of time and emotion. Let the student be.

    Oh, and I still love my 6 yrs+ old D90. He can have that Canon x 10 units for himself without me drooling.
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    I'm not even aware of the C100 model.
    Anyway someone with a name like Thoams must be rich

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    When i see you all criticizing and making fun of students, i feel very sad.
    I am a student myself. Please try to understand although i am poor i also have dreams to take the bestest photos at lowest possible prices.

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    Haha... please don't judge a student "rich" over a relatively small sum of US$3,999 cam. I think there are many other things we could also point to. Like cars in Singapore. I've never understood how rich the general Singaporeans are. Even with COE for small cars reaching almost S$70k and beyond not long ago, people here still buy cars! I don't think everyone is stupid here financially. So they are likely rich.

    But if you all want to judge on wealth, I suggest doing it on our government and MPs. Recently, I came to know from a colleague who used to be quite close to an associate who was then a senior ruling party MP, in addition to being a minister himself. The MP salary itself was already Whoa HIGH! It's not the often talked about S$16k a month that we hear. That amount is for rookies like Tin Pei Ling who just joined.

    Of course ultimately, if you wanna talk about being rich, look no further than our President, PM and his gang of ministers. The previous president Nathan reportedly earned more than S$4.2 million annually, and had S$73k as his "entertainment allowance". How long did the man serve as SG president? 8 years? Go work the Math!

    Now coming back.... is the student really rich to want to buy a C100? Sounds like a disposable toy or door-stopper to the rich people like our local politicians!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchRival View Post
    When i see you all criticizing and making fun of students, i feel very sad.
    I am a student myself. Please try to understand although i am poor i also have dreams to take the bestest photos at lowest possible prices.
    Your England is very powderful. What school are you in? I won't send my kids there in future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donut88 View Post
    Your England is very powderful. What school are you in? I won't send my kids there in future.
    You teaches them Inglish youself?
    Last edited by Sion; 9th January 2015 at 10:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donut88 View Post
    Your England is very powderful. What school are you in? I won't send my kids there in future.
    Currently privately studying part time in internationally recognised uni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchRival View Post
    Currently privately studying part time in internationally recognised uni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    Why must buy Canon?

    I think Pentax is the camera for students.

    professionals use Nikon, they dont use Canon.
    Objection !!!

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