entry level medium format camera

[LENS]

Hello guys,

What is the entry level medium format camera?

Holga is for 120 FILM.
Seagull ?

[snowspeeder]

The fixed lens models would suffice as entry level MF cams.

[Splutter]

Can try out some of the older TLRs first, really value for money.
If you really want interchangable lenses, can consider systems like mamiya rb67 or bronica which many ppl are selling for low prices these days.

[zeiss planar]

Originally Posted by LENS Hello guys, What is the entry level medium format camera? Holga is for 120 FILM. Seagull ?

Seagull is one candidate ,but the one to go for is definitely the Rolleiflex TLR .Not too expensive and come with pretty good zeiss or schneider optics even after more than 50 years old.Definitely a keeper if you decide to upgrade .

[snowspeeder]

Originally Posted by zeiss planar Seagull is one candidate ,but the one to go for is definitely the Rolleiflex TLR .Not too expensive and come with pretty good zeiss or schneider optics even after more than 50 years old.Definitely a keeper if you decide to upgrade .

Just got myself a 2nd hand Seagull 4B from a gentlemen in CS. Worked great and I was impressed with the image quality. Unfortunately it is fixed lens.

The Rolleiflex TLR you mentioned can have interchageable lens? Which model may I know, so I can keep a look out for it?

[Splutter]

I think the mamiya c330 tlr also can change lens, heard its quite a performer too.

[roti]

finding a gd 2nd hand TLR camera can be quite difficult now...a gd condition rb67/rz67/645tl will much easier to source...

[doug3fflux]

talking about fixed lens TLRs like seagull...how come no one mention problems with fungus? there is'nt....?

[hongsien]

Originally Posted by doug3fflux talking about fixed lens TLRs like seagull...how come no one mention problems with fungus? there is'nt....?

Because ALL including your own body can potentially have problems with fungus........there are some 'good' fungus too......

Hong Sien

[doug3fflux]

Originally Posted by hongsien Because ALL including your own body can potentially have problems with fungus........there are some 'good' fungus too...... Hong Sien

i thought moderate fungus allows contrasty effects...but severe fungus? mushroom biodiversity?

[enivre]

if you interested can try out my Yashica Mat, it's a MF TLR... Lens still blazingly sharp (I can show you with slides I took)... working perfectly after sending it for servicing..

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=146665

[LENS]

Originally Posted by zeiss planar Seagull is one candidate ,but the one to go for is definitely the Rolleiflex TLR .Not too expensive and come with pretty good zeiss or schneider optics even after more than 50 years old.Definitely a keeper if you decide to upgrade .

Hi Zeiss planar, Any specified model for Rolleiflex TLR? give me a clue if you have an idea how much for a used one.
Thank you.

[dreamseeker]

hi Lens,

There was some discussion on medium format previously. See the following thread.

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=144366

Good condition Rolleiflex is very much sought after and can cost even more than a entry level DSLR.
for between $400-$700, can consider Rolleicords.

Rolleiflex f3.5 or f2.8 versions can cost anywhere in the region of >$600 - $1k+.

For a good review,
http://www.photo.net/equipment/rollei/tlr

FOr a good read,
http://www.foto.no/rolleiflex/

Cheers.

[zeiss planar]

Originally Posted by snowspeeder Just got myself a 2nd hand Seagull 4B from a gentlemen in CS. Worked great and I was impressed with the image quality. Unfortunately it is fixed lens. The Rolleiflex TLR you mentioned can have interchageable lens? Which model may I know, so I can keep a look out for it?

Huh?Rolleiflex TLR NEVER have any interchangeable lens model.
Maybe when I mention zeiss and schneider optics confuse you.You see , certain model(can't remember which) whether it's F3.5(zeiss-Tessar)(schneider-xenar) or F2.8(zeiss-planar)(schneider-xenotar) model have both lens design by both zeiss and schneider in the 50's.
Generally both are good.However in the real world , buyer/collector who go for F3.5 will get the Tessar wherebyfor F2.8 most will look for Xenotar lens.

[zeiss planar]

Originally Posted by Splutter I think the mamiya c330 tlr also can change lens, heard its quite a performer too.

Only Mamiya TLR can change lens.

[zeiss planar]

Originally Posted by roti finding a gd 2nd hand TLR camera can be quite difficult now...a gd condition rb67/rz67/645tl will much easier to source...

our friend looking for a entry level medium format camera lah..RB is definitely out.Maybe the 645....

[zeiss planar]

Originally Posted by LENS Hi Zeiss planar, Any specified model for Rolleiflex TLR? give me a clue if you have an idea how much for a used one. Thank you.

To be very honest , ANY of the working Rolleiflex TLR is good .It only really depend on your budget.
For me when I look at a RolleiflexTLR , I usually look at the lens and general appearances.Lens is a paramount consideration for me to buy a rollei.Make sure it doesn't suffer from any serious impact which may cause the focusing to be out.Test also the shutter especially at slow speed from 1s~15s.It shouldn't feel sticky, otherwise It may need servicing. Lastly try the rewinding handle , make sure it is smooth as cream.

[roti]

Originally Posted by zeiss planar our friend looking for a entry level medium format camera lah..RB is definitely out.Maybe the 645....

rz maybe out la...but a gd old rb67 wont cost very much...
if looking for a more hand held camera then take the 645 lor....

[surfer18]

Look for those old folding camera. I got one with Carl Zeiss 75mm F3.5 for $100. They comes in 645, 6x6 mostly. Sometime 6x7. Sometimes these can go even lower then SG$100.

Advantage : Folds down to be the size of pencil box or smaller for some model. No coating lens. 100% manual control. Flash syn at all shutter speed because of leaf-shutter.

Disadvantage: Limited shutter speed. Single lens only. Slow winding. Film winding & shutter **** different (Sometime this is a advance because slowest shutter speed is 1sec can fire the shutter for exact secs needed.)

[LENS]

Hi guys,

I find out that Rolleiflex 2.8 is still in production. Any ideal where is the dealer in singapore, how much is a new one?

Thank you.