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    we'll progress from here! no worries!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesecake
    no la.. will not be the start of another bad run la

    Go Liverpool Go! Cisse was mentioned as a possible transfer exchange with Newcastle for Mickey Owen in the game by the commentators, anyone heard that?
    wld prefer to keep Cisse as Owen is so injury prone these days.
    even thought Cisse was running like a headless chicken

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernest_ted
    wld prefer to keep Cisse as Owen is so injury prone these days.
    even thought Cisse was running like a headless chicken
    with a hairstyle like his

    i think we missed Crouchie in the second half

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    Quote Originally Posted by burger
    with a hairstyle like his

    i think we missed Crouchie in the second half

    It sounds strange but YES, we missed Crouchie...

    I think we really needed a right winger and a new striker.

    Joaquin and Pennant..

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    So ironic.

    Mellor scores the winner in the dying minutes.

    Liverpool looses a match in the dying minutes.

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    Actually, seem to remember in the 70s when pool was all conquering, MU was the jinx team for us. Would beat everyone else. but would somehow lose to MU eventhough htey were a few places below. Any LFC encyclopedia cna confirm? Was a kid then and that was what I seem to remember.

    Maybe it's the start of another trend, as irritatingly infuriating it is to lose to MU, it's a small price to pay if we win the Champions league again and the premiership next year.

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    Well MU speciality these day are ending unbeaten runs and after that they can go rott again

    Well it's a small price to pay if say we can get 4 - 6 pts from the next 2 EPL games (Arsenal & Chelski). Losing this game may be a wake up call to some of the players maybe spuring them on for matches to come.

    Lose 1 game and go on another 8-10 match unbeaten run, y not

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    sigh typical man utd fans behaviour when i saw the other thread, which sets us apart.
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    don't need to bother la... the first thing man utd scored, my frens who r mainly man utd fans, some text me to remind me of the scoreline. one bugger jus 'HAHAHA!' in his sms!
    haaaaa

    i reminded them too, of the 2 games in hand.
    some consolation! sad sad sad!
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    I watch the match with my friend who supports MU, at least he's gracious that MU was lucky to win the match.

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    First corner to MU on the 87th minute... that speaks for itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akane
    sigh typical man utd fans behaviour when i saw the other thread, which sets us apart.
    If you read the post before and after the match, you see there are no difference. Oh my, there are even predictions!

    Quote Originally Posted by yyD70S
    First corner to MU on the 87th minute... that speaks for itself.
    Ya man. First goal to MU on the 90th minute....that speaks for itself too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afbug
    If you read the post before and after the match, you see there are no difference. Oh my, there are even predictions!
    everyone's human i guess.

    expected a tough match and frankly, i was a bit surprised by man utd's performance. the man utd of the last 10min was what i expected to see for the whole match but instead the devils looked pretty tame and only bucked up when liverpool let up the pace and started playing for the draw (thought that was a mistake by rafa) .

    Was sad that we lost but thought there were plenty of positives. The team matched the devils on the pitch and our central midfield was even better than man utd's. man utd was stronger in attack and rooney was great for them. but i think even man utd fans would not argue that we deserved a point...and any liverpool fan would argue we deserved more

    yes, we had beaten man utd frequently under houllier. but in those matches, we sat back and defended and sucker punched them. we were always second best in terms of football. on sunday, we went to old trafford and outplayed them for 80min. while i would not say we are their class yet, the gap has closed and i think the devils are sweating....i guess you can say we're only 10min away.

    we lack a killer in front of goal and frankly ciise has not done enough to prove he can fill the role. we had gotten away with it cos the midfielders were contributing so many goals but against man utd, rafa chose to sit deeper and hence the strikers needed to step up and take up the scoring slack. they did not and we paid the price. perhaps rafa should have been more aggresive and try to attack more but i think he's afraid of being caught out by a counter. the man utd counter attack is, to me at least, one of the great sights of modern football. quick,fluid and lethal.

    and i was suprised ciise started. the previous games, we had crouch and morientes up front. these two can win headers and lean of the opposing backline to open the way for the midfielders to move in. when i saw ciise on the team sheet, i knew rafa was gonna be cautious, using his pace to try to get past the defence while the midfield sat back. mistake? perhaps but then again, we also could have won the match and then this would have been a moot point.

    all in all, nice effort from the boys. i am pleased with the performance and if we continue to play like that, i think we'll win more than lose. but i doubt man utd could keep winning if they played like they did that night, would they?
    anyway, well played man utd, bragging rights to you guys this time.
    now can you guys and we guys stop arguing and focus on nipping jose's heels?
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    i don't think we need to console ourselves that much. it's pretty much in evidence.

    Liverpool and Manchester United supporters will have their own opinions on Sunday's match but what did the journalists from the national press make of the clash between the two giants of the North West? Here's just a selection of what was written about the match in today's national newspapers...

    The Liverpool revival under Rafael Benitez is every bit as real as United's decline over the past few years. This was a gloriously satisfying victory for United, a reminder of the times when they would routinely score late winners at the Stretford End, but the comparisons with the glory days did not go much farther. Time will tell whether a first defeat in 13 Premiership matches has a deflating effect on a Liverpool team entering their most demanding period of the season, but on the balance of play yesterday, it was hard to escape the conclusion that the second-best team in England were the ones wearing white shirts. Liverpool controlled the game throughout, with Steven Gerrard and Mohammed Sissoko dwarfing the relative pygmies in a makeshift home midfield, but were made to pay the price for retreating fatally when the United rally came, largely courtesy of Rooney and Ryan Giggs.
    Oliver Kay
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    PRIDE OF THE NORTH WEST? Still Liverpool as far as I am concerned. As they did against Chelsea, Manchester United have nicked a fortunate win against a superior team. Short-term elation for them, but for the long haul, Liverpool look a better bet to finish second come the end of the season. With their two matches in hand, they could rise above United sooner rather than later. Rafael Benitez's men will be pig sick at losing, especially in such a cruel way, but they should take comfort from the knowledge that they were better from back to front. Especially in the midfield, where Mohamed Sissoko, Steven Gerrard and Xabi Alonso ran the show. Committed, tough-tackling with a mean streak, they break up the play and ease the pressure on the defence. United's midfield is nowhere near as effective. It also struck me how tall Liverpool's players are. That can only make the team more intimidating.
    Tony Cascarino
    The Times


    This report should say United ambushed their biggest enemy, then declared war on Jose Mourinho's men, marching down the M6 with battle standard raised. Today Liverpool, tomorrow the world. But it didn't feel that way. It looked liker a desperate header from a centre half rescuing the club from creeping mediocrity. It was a result that told a fib. They won the struggle to be regarded as the second best team in England, but failed to win the wider battle for hearts and minds. The few remaining players who still have class of '92 running through them like a stick of rock aren't blind to the drop in standards. When Liverpool's fine run of victories and a draw in 12 Premiership outings was finally stopped, Gary Neville patented a Mancunian haka in front of the visitors' end – grabbing his shorts and kissing his badge like an especially truculent All Black.
    Paul Hayward
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    United had been forced to endure far more than Liverpool in just about every respect until the last few minutes of a tense, enthralling but largely uneventful encounter. The European champions had enjoyed the majority of possession, had dominated midfield and created the better of the chances. Sadly for those hoping to see a side put pressure on Chelsea, the wrong side secured victory. Had Liverpool beaten their great rivals and they won their two games in hand, they would have been seven points adrift of the premiership leaders. As it is, and only someone as determined as Gerrard may refuse to except this, the chance to catch Jose Mourinho's side has now gone.
    Matt Lawton
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    Liverpool can be proud of the way they went about their business. It was a tight game but Liverpool were the better side. United were wounded after their defeat in the derby match last week so for Liverpool to go to Old Trafford and do so well is a great tribute to them. I still think in the general scheme of things Liverpool are in a better position than United, even though they lost yesterday. If you were a Liverpool fan you would be unhappy with the result but happy with the performance and you could see that at the end as United players celebrated as though they had won the Cup final.
    Alan Hansen
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    Manchester United remain second in the Premiership and the great symbolic shift in the power structure of English football was put on hold, at least until Liverpool play their two games in hand. Meanwhile, Rafael Benitez had to join Jose Mourinho in contemplating the dismantling here of an unbeaten run without having any real evidence to help him understand how it happened. Liverpool should have won this game. For most of it they had more possession, more chances and a little more purpose. This was not a match imprinted with the usual classic qualities of these two snarling sets of rivals. Yet that too might offer a pointer to the way that Benitez is reeling in United and preparing them to take over the mantle of Chelsea's most serious challengers. He is doing it gradually, methodically, without any big, symbolic statements of intent against the other battalions of the Big Four. You left Old Trafford yesterday with the impression that United might only stem the tide of the sea change for a little while longer.
    John Dillon
    Daily Express


    Liverpool were left as frustrated as much as angry because they had held the upper hand for much of the game and squandered the clearest chance of all. But Ferdinand's goal came so late there was no time for Rafa Benitez's side to retrieve their unbeaten league record that had stretched back 12 matches to the defeat at Fulham in October. United were far from convincing but they produced the sweat, passion and determination that was lacking in the Manchester derby defeat. The fact United took 87 minutes to force their first cornerunderlined Liverpool's relative comfort.
    Richard Tanner
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    Liverpool made their hosts suffer in the first half, mostly by doing the simple things with passable efficiency. For long spells United could not even manage that. In the centre of Benitez's midfield, Mohamed Sissoko and Xabi Alonso were producing exactly the combination of strength and deliberation that United lacked. For those 45 minutes the three Glazer brothers, watching from the directors' box, must have been wondering why their new team had no quarterback to direct the play and get the forwards moving. And if the Premiership kept pass-completion statistics, United would surely have been establishing a new all-comers' low for the season.
    Richard Williams
    The Guardian


    In the wider development of United and Liverpool and the struggle to establish themselves as Chelsea's principle challengers - it is impossible not to feel that, for long periods of time in this game, Benitez's team looked far healthier. Wayne Rooney refused to accept that Liverpool had come along to announce that his team had slipped down another rank in the pecking order of English football's aristocracy. That, though might well have been the reality but for United's late strike. The truth was that Liverpool for most of the time did look much more the coherent force. They covered the ground and generally looked the more confident side. Benitez has made extraordinary progress at Anfield but he is still a long way from settling on a strike force of genuine conviction.
    Sam Wallace
    The independent

    let's be patient for the rafalution....

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    Its simple giddygoat. We got no more midfielders. With such a midfield, against the strength of Liverpool's, any team gotta becareful not to let in goals. If United had its midfield back, i'm sure we'll have a go. You can say United was lucky. Yes, United was lucky to get that goal but you need luck to win as Chelsea sometimes did and the 5th CL win for Liverpool. The difference was United took a risk and went for broke instead of sitting tight and settle for a draw.

    If Liverpool did not sit back in the last 10-15mins, I admit you guys deserve at least a point, if not a win. Hunger to win got the better of United and they went for it. Saha went in and it became 4-3-3. Its all about attacking and taking risks and thats why i am a United fan instead of other teams. The reason why Liverpool lost is because of Benitaz's mistake, not entirely the team's fault. Cisse is really a mystery. I think Benitaz panicked when Saha came on and he threw in the new defender, Konkamp? I find the current Liverpool is still a bit defensive but a lot more attacking than last time thou. Benitaz is a cautious manager who dun really take risks. His old Valencia had many attacking flair but still a low scoring team. If he will to take a bit more risks, i think he can win many things with Liverpool. He showed too much respect for other teams at times. If he will to attack United like what City did, i think Liverpool would had won by 2 goals.

    United is now easy meat with such a midfield, if you dun take your chances, you dun deserve to win or draw. Blackburn will be hungry tonight, I am afraid! Its all about desire to win.

    Overall, after this 2 legs of home and away, i find both managers respect each other too much. A bit flat. Match is over. United will worry about its midfield and Liverpool will concentrate on its next few tough EPL games. Better luck next season.

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    man utd is on the decline because they do not haf good midfielders unlike last time.
    the decay of the great man utd side of the 90s began with the export of a certain david beckham to real kuniangs.

    sad but true. man utd missed his crossings but not his circus entourage.

    i don't see man utd challenging for honours next season unless they buckle up their midfield, which to me is all the more delightful. hahaha
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    hmmm... last time under hollier.... we win man utd by playing boring match and defending all the way...... now man utd learn that trick and use it back on us.... so sad....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesecake
    i don't see man utd challenging for honours next season unless they buckle up their midfield, which to me is all the more delightful. hahaha
    Yes, Man Utd's midfield is woeful but still can manage some wins against some particular teams, which to me is also delightful.... hahaha.

    Quote Originally Posted by idor
    hmmm... last time under hollier.... we win man utd by playing boring match and defending all the way...... now man utd learn that trick and use it back on us.... so sad....
    The thing is, Liverpool din make use of its possession of the ball. Not much attack. And Cisse is still a mystery
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    Quote Originally Posted by afbug
    Yes, Man Utd's midfield is woeful but still can manage some wins against some particular teams, which to me is also delightful.... hahaha.



    The thing is, Liverpool din make use of its possession of the ball. Not much attack. And Cisse is still a mystery
    i've no qualms with that. the league table doesn't lie! and hell, we're still in the CL! wat's going on?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesecake
    i've no qualms with that. the league table doesn't lie! and hell, we're still in the CL! wat's going on?!
    I tell you, lucky we're out of CL. This kinda midfield, all injured, i also dare not watch. Now, less games better.

    Ya man. League table dun lie. It told me that Utd is in 2nd. 2 games in hand is nothing till you win them. Hope Arsenal do you guys a favour, still got home and away against them.

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