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    Question How to eliminate shake factor in Macros

    Dear Shutterbugs,
    I am frequently shooting Macro pics, specially with add on Macro Vitcon lens 0.5X. The shake factor becomes very critical at full Digital Zoom 11x.

    How to eliminate the shake factor, I cannot fix a tri/mono-pod in middle of shrubs, bushes and lakes.

    Should I use a tripod to keep myself on stable ground and zoom in closer to the subject from a larger distance.

    Recently my entire macro shoot was spoiled by blurring caused by my hands shaking.
    Kindly advise,
    Cheers,

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    maybe u can try my pro 90 IS macro setup at

    http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthrea...ght=macro+shot

    u need a flash like 420EX and Omni-Bounce
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    Default Re: How to eliminate shake factor in Macros

    Originally posted by Shafique
    Dear Shutterbugs, I am frequently shooting Macro pics, specially with add on Macro Vitcon lens 0.5X. The shake factor becomes very critical at full Digital Zoom 11x.
    Well, here is a tip. Try not to ultilise your digital zoom. Instead rely on your optical zoom.

    Also, try out Megaweb's macro shooting set up. What he proposes and the pointers his shares is quite invaluable!

    Happy shooting!
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    heres a qns...is it possible to take macros without using a macro lens? say for example with a ef50mm/1.8 attached with a 250D?
    wats the difference btw this and using a 50mm macro lens?

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    Originally posted by Mystix
    heres a qns...is it possible to take macros without using a macro lens? say for example with a ef50mm/1.8 attached with a 250D?
    wats the difference btw this and using a 50mm macro lens?
    Yes quite possible, and a cheaper alternative to a dedicated macro lens. However you may want to try close up filters from some of the other brands like B+W or Nikon - they are cheaper than Canon and as good.
    Have you experimented with extension tubes and teleconverters?

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    Originally posted by Mystix
    heres a qns...is it possible to take macros without using a macro lens? say for example with a ef50mm/1.8 attached with a 250D?
    wats the difference btw this and using a 50mm macro lens?
    yes there is a different between 50mm f1.8 + 250D and 50mm f2.5 macro lens

    magnification for 50mm f1.8 + 250D = 0.36x
    magnification for 50mm f2.5 = 0.5x

    refer to this link foir detail
    http://bobatkins.photo.net/info/faq30/closeup.htm

    dun think it is worh to try 50mm f1.8 + 250D as a 250D itself costs almost the same price as the 50mm f1.8
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    Originally posted by megaweb
    maybe u can try my pro 90 IS macro setup at

    http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthrea...ght=macro+shot

    u need a flash like 420EX and Omni-Bounce
    Thanks for the reply, but my question was regarding the camera shake, and your setup seems to be more 'light-oriented', using Flash/omni bounce etc.

    My concern is how to get a stable hold of the camera when shooting Macros, as for the lights and flash/bounce..i have no question/concerns.
    Thank you.

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    Originally posted by megaweb

    dun think it is worh to try 50mm f1.8 + 250D as a 250D itself costs almost the same price as the 50mm f1.8
    how about Nikon #4T macro lens? it's cheaper at ~$50 and is a double element lens.
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    Default Re: How to eliminate shake factor in Macros

    Originally posted by Shafique

    Recently my entire macro shoot was spoiled by blurring caused by my hands shaking.
    ur problem of getting blur shots may not due to your hands shaking , it can be due to
    - insufficient of shutter speed
    - object NOT in focus

    maybe post ur shots with settings here to let us see where went wrong
    See my Photo Gallery at the Clubsnap

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    Originally posted by megaweb

    ur problem of getting blur shots may not due to your hands shaking , it can be due to
    - insufficient of shutter speed
    - object NOT in focus

    maybe post ur shots with settings here to let us see where went wrong
    Yea..that sure sounds good..I shall upload the pics in the evening after office.

    Cheers, thanks for the effort.

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    Originally posted by megaweb

    ur problem of getting blur shots may not due to your hands shaking , it can be due to
    - insufficient of shutter speed
    - object NOT in focus

    maybe post ur shots with settings here to let us see where went wrong



    Megaweb, this is for your perusal,
    http://www.pbase.com/image/5625734
    I have selected this image out of the 30+ images shot at Botanic Gd. Although the focus and exposure 'seems' appropriate to me( you can see my reflection in its eyes), I still feel something is missing..this is not the quality of my camera/lens...there is definately a camera shake..i was leaning forward with my arms stretched all out to close up this monster...and I knew while shooting the image would reflect the shake.
    As for the stable shots ..the quality is good..you can check this shot for comparison.
    http://www.pbase.com/image/5496077

    I dont know how to make my camera stable in situations like the first shot.
    Can I use a telephoto lens and mount my camera on stable ground at a larger distance..can it help in macros..is telephoto useful for macro.?
    Kindly advise.
    Thank you.

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    Was digital zoom used to blow up the shot? Or was digital zoom utilised in G2 itself?
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    Originally posted by Wolfgang
    Was digital zoom used to blow up the shot? Or was digital zoom utilised in G2 itself?
    3.6x on G2..thats all.

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    Both shots look soft to me and definitely not blur .. see ur settings as follows :

    1st shot - damselfly
    Shooting Mode: Manual
    Tv( Shutter Speed ): 1/500
    Av( Aperture Value ): 2.5
    Metering Mode: Spot
    Exposure Compensation: 0
    ISO Speed: 50

    2nd shot - ant
    Shooting Mode: Aperture-Priority AE
    Tv( Shutter Speed ): 1/320
    Av( Aperture Value ): 2.5
    Metering Mode: Evaluative
    Exposure Compensation: 0
    ISO Speed: 50

    aperture values used are f2.5 which cause the DOF very shallow ...you should use f8.

    some other factors tt also cause soft problem
    - digital zoom <-- dun recommend
    - Vitacon Macro lens

    recommendation
    - dun use digital zoom.
    - use better close up lens like nikon 4T or canon 250D
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    Originally posted by megaweb
    Both shots look soft to me and definitely not blur .. see ur settings as follows :

    1st shot - damselfly
    Shooting Mode: Manual
    Tv( Shutter Speed ): 1/500
    Av( Aperture Value ): 2.5
    Metering Mode: Spot
    Exposure Compensation: 0
    ISO Speed: 50

    2nd shot - ant
    Shooting Mode: Aperture-Priority AE
    Tv( Shutter Speed ): 1/320
    Av( Aperture Value ): 2.5
    Metering Mode: Evaluative
    Exposure Compensation: 0
    ISO Speed: 50

    aperture values used are f2.5 which cause the DOF very shallow ...you should use f8.

    some other factors tt also cause soft problem
    - digital zoom <-- dun recommend
    - Vitacon Macro lens

    recommendation
    - dun use digital zoom.
    - use better close up lens like nikon 4T or canon 250D
    Thanks for the reply..can telephoto lens help..if yes..any recommendations.
    Thanks.

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    Originally posted by Shafique


    Thanks for the reply..can telephoto lens help..if yes..any recommendations.
    Thanks.
    Yes it does help .. however , all current TCs in the market do not have a give good decent quality.. so better dun use any of them

    I guess is G2 limitation , there is only 1 recommendation which is
    - use better closeup lens like Nikon 4T/5T/6T or 250D
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    Originally posted by Shafique
    Thanks for the reply, but my question was regarding the camera shake, and your setup seems to be more 'light-oriented', using Flash/omni bounce etc.
    Actually, adding light plays a very important role in reducing camera shake, because more light enables you to use faster shutter speeds. I would definitely suggest that you try using a monopod and flash if camera shake is a real problem in the kind of scenes you photograph.

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    Originally posted by Midnight
    Actually, adding light plays a very important role in reducing camera shake, because more light enables you to use faster shutter speeds. I would definitely suggest that you try using a monopod and flash if camera shake is a real problem in the kind of scenes you photograph.
    Thanks 'Midnight', I will try it out. Megaweb's set up seems very good as well.

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    doesn't a shutter speed of 1/500s take out most of the camera shake? considering the proximity of the object, i thought u could rule shake out?

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    Originally posted by shuy
    doesn't a shutter speed of 1/500s take out most of the camera shake? considering the proximity of the object, i thought u could rule shake out?
    You're generally correct, but it also depends on the focal length at which the photo is being shot (and of course on how stable one is, in the first place)

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