I use neither. Cos I find them expensive and a lot of the money i pay goes to QiQi, Sammi and Sandy. I'm now using a cleanser wif all natural ingredients, no sodium laureth sulphate. I did a patch test and it has whitening effect after 1 use. So I'm now using it, together with a removal that removes my hard-to-remove waterproof mascara with one swipe and a toner which doubles up as a moisturiser. My friends are also using and so far, everyone's happy with it.