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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisp
    One thing I need to add. If you're taking pictures of people..be VERY discreet. Ppl as a whole there take a big exception to their privacy. AND, most important of all..don't take pictures of kids! No matter how cute they are. They are very SENSITIVE about that issue.

    And (especially for sydney) at night, if you're taking pictures..do NOT bring a camera bag.
    Bring a backpack or something that looks pretty ordinary, otherwise chances of getting mugged is rather much sooner or later. There was a case where some people had their equipment robbed in daylight at darling harbour for example.

    Otherwise said, australia as a whole is a great landscape/ nature country for a photographer. As for culture/people wise, I find the asian countries much more receptive to work.
    With a Privacy Act in the Australian law, you are correct but only to a certain extent. The act is there to provide people with a means to seek recourse (unlike S'pore which doesn't have a Privacy Act.) However, Aussies don't sue every Tom or Tan on a daily (or even weekly) basis just because they want to use this Act and claim violation of their privacy.

    I'm sure if any Aussie (or even S'porean) is suspicious, they can approach you and ask why you shot the image. And if you have offended them, or caused them unease, the very least you could do was to offer them a copy of the image with your contact number, or else delete it. Since you're a tourist, they may accept the fact that you're just interested about the people and mannerisms of Aussies, and accept that you're just being what you are -- a tourist.

    However, I must caution you. About 4-5 days ago, a newspaper in Melbourne ran a front page report again on the issue of privacy, especially with the use of mobile phone cameras (and actually any camera) at places where some privacy would be expected by people. Places such as change rooms, public pools, beaches, schools, etc. New laws are in the progress of being written to deal with handphone camera perverts (and any camera pervert) who shoot women and children.

    Of course, the law will also take into account of situations where genuine photographers or people who have the right/consent to shoot photos, be excluded from legal implications. In all common sense, this law revision is being drafted for a simple reason. There are perverts (in S'pore, Australia, and everywhere else in the world) who abuse their cameras, and make our world so tough to live in (just like terrorists).

    I was out on the street today photographing cafes in laneways. Nobody gave me the middle-finger, and nobody grabbed me by the collar. And since it's so cold in Melbourne, no bloke cheekily pulled down his pants to flash me his backside (I have encountered that) and no sheila lifted her blouse to flash me her boobs (I'm still waiting for that to happen). If there was anyone making a slight attempt of avoiding my camera, it was a couple of Asian girls.

    If you really want shots of people, such as impromptu street portraits, then walk up and ask. I did that for about 2 years in Melbourne. Very roughly, 9 out of 10 Caucasians said yes, and 9 out of 10 Asians said no.

    Just be extra careful when aiming at children, especially with the topic of handphone camera and any camera perverts causing the revision of current privacy laws. Ask first before shooting.

    From a photographer friend who lives in Sydney, he has observed that a lot more people openly carry and use cameras in Melbourne than in Sydney. Really, I see Melbourne as a public camera parade.

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    It happened to me in Sydney. I needed a quick custom white balance setting and spotted a parked white car I was walking past, so I just took an unfocused shot of the bonnet and wanted to move on - however I didn't know that there was someone in the car, and the driver demanded to know why I took the shot.

    Its a bit challenging to explain why I needed a custom white balance setting to the average layperson, but I tried my best, showed him what I took (or didn't take; it was just a blank white frame) and he seemed satisfied with the explanation.

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    Any recommendations for sydney ???
    Me looking at two backpackers place.
    1) http://www.originalbackpackers.com.au/index.html
    2) http://www.mazebackpackers.com/index.html

    Anyone been there ? Comments ?

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    Well, I live in sydney.
    1 word: Respect people's privacy, and don't take picture of kids.
    And hide your camera well, especially at night in the city.

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    Hi Wisp,

    Can help me comment on the above 2 backpackers place ? Thanks

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    Well, they're in rather seedy parts of the city. If you're staying there for 1 or 2 days it's fine, but if I recall there's a backpackers place at New Town area that's recommended in the Lonely Planets Guide. The place escapes me at the moment, but I've been there and it's actually styled like a little hotel. Price was pretty reasonable too. Perhaps you could check that out.

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    Wisp, since u in sydney, can help recommend something ?
    The list of hostels are so long .. dun know where to start, the above two addresses I got from lonely planet too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisp
    Well, they're in rather seedy parts of the city. If you're staying there for 1 or 2 days it's fine, but if I recall there's a backpackers place at New Town area that's recommended in the Lonely Planets Guide. The place escapes me at the moment, but I've been there and it's actually styled like a little hotel. Price was pretty reasonable too. Perhaps you could check that out.
    New Town is a great place to hang out. Not that far from the city center. Cheap food. Great coffee places and curry.

    I used to throttle past from San Souci to the city via Princess Highway.
    Last edited by kahheng; 12th August 2005 at 07:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisp
    And hide your camera well, especially at night in the city.
    Oh yeah, a bunch of Leb kids (aka "persons of Middle Eastern origin") 'wanted' my camera when I was walking along the street at night not too far from Wooloomooloo. And they weren't offering cash in exchange if you know what I mean.
    Last edited by kahheng; 12th August 2005 at 07:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r32
    It happened to me in Sydney. I needed a quick custom white balance setting and spotted a parked white car I was walking past, so I just took an unfocused shot of the bonnet and wanted to move on - however I didn't know that there was someone in the car, and the driver demanded to know why I took the shot.

    Its a bit challenging to explain why I needed a custom white balance setting to the average layperson, but I tried my best, showed him what I took (or didn't take; it was just a blank white frame) and he seemed satisfied with the explanation.
    Most people have secrets (or something to hide). A car, with a registration number, could identify its owner. Quite logically, if the owner has even the slightest bit of something in his past to hide (maybe he stole ciggies an hour ago or got a love letter from Osama in his mailbox yesterday), he (being a Caucasian and Caucasians tend to be more outspoken unlike Asians who keep more quiet) would readily open his gap to demand to know your interest in his car.

    Haven't you seen S'poreans covering their faces at certain situations when the local media aims the camera at them? I recalled watching news on TV that had the media filming S'poreans queueing up early to see the show flat of a new condo. Wahhh... don't know why almost all of them covered their faces. All guilty of what? Went Geylang last night? Or surfing porno every night?

    If I were to take a photos of your car, or your flat door, wouldn't you want to know what I was up to? It's only natural to want to know why. Caucasians readily ask why. Asians tend to keep quiet. It's that simple. Really.
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    manage to find this Inn in melbourne from lonely planet website:
    Dalgety Inn, 53-55 Park Street (South Yarra). Is it far from CBD ?

    Any comment on this place ? Normally, from airport, which is the best way to get
    to any hostel ? Taxi ? Bus ? Roughly how much ?

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    Hi Fuzzyone, you havent book ur accomodation ???
    Me leaving on thursday to sydney.

    Would be staying at Sydney Central on Wentworth
    Rates not too bad and I figured it is at the heart of the city.
    You still dropping by sydney ?

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    Haven't booked any yet. But in melbourne, likely to stay in Mel Metro for 2-3 nite. Then will drive to GOR , Grampian (accom. look on the way)

    Yap, i'll be taking a 0800 flght from mel to sydney on next friday. I'm now looking at the various hostel there. Seem like sydney central is a good choice. U there with yr friend ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzyone
    manage to find this Inn in melbourne from lonely planet website:
    Dalgety Inn, 53-55 Park Street (South Yarra). Is it far from CBD ?

    Any comment on this place ? Normally, from airport, which is the best way to get
    to any hostel ? Taxi ? Bus ? Roughly how much ?
    Without looking at the map, and by your indication that it's at South Yarra, this Dalgety Inn could be near South Yarra station which is just 2 stations away from the CBD. You could say that it's like Lavender from City Hall (but has Bugis kind of atmosphere).

    No comments about this place because I haven't seen it.

    Taxi from the airport to the CBD is about $35-$40 (without jams). There is a Sky Bus that takes you into the CBD (Spencer Street Station) for $16.

    The best recommendation I can give you to reach South Yarra is to use a taxi from the airport, especially if you're carrying your luggage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzyone
    Yap, i'll be taking a 0800 flght from mel to sydney on next friday. I'm now looking at the various hostel there. Seem like sydney central is a good choice. U there with yr friend ?
    Next friday ? I would be off from sydney already ...
    Enjoy ur trip to mel.

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    u enj also lah..u heading Blue Mt ?
    By the way, can roughly tell me where and what u plan to take photo
    in Sydney ? I no time to plan for Sydney, except have to shoot Opera House & the Bridge tt's all....

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    You need to get a bus or book a day tour to Blue mountain, but I guess it is a must go in sydney.
    Anyway, off to sydney today already. Good luck on your trip.

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