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    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    The adults who started the demonstration are now no where to be seen.
    They are 3 old uni professors about to retire.

    They talked, talked and talked about Occupy Central for months and months.

    The impatient students just went ahead and did it.

    To many of them this is better than picnic.

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    I am sure they around before 1997.

    Do they have the gut to talk about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithwee View Post
    In comparison , HK is actually getting more autonomy as compared to under their ex colonial leaders.

    The whole fiasco instead shows how easily the average citizen can be whipped into a frenzy and taken advantage of without a clear understanding of the situation.

    It probably all stems from the general felt notion that most HK citizens feel negatively towards being associated with China and this is what China needs to work on.

    Anyway, the protests should be dying down soon ; sadly - in HK the citizens have much more to lose at a personal level as compared to other countries where protesters can afford to camp at airports for months.
    Best summarized by a commented I saw in FB:
    From 1842 to 1997, British occupied and colonized Hong Kong for 155 years, without giving any Rights to the HongKees to have any Democracy for One Citizen has One Vote to Voting their own Hong Kong Governor.

    Now China give to HongKees One Citizen has One Vote to Voting their own Hong Kong Governor, however, the Candidates of Governor before Election must be assented by the China Authority. And yet the Hongkee students revolt against it, which was incited by some Opposition Parties.

    Under155 years British Ruled without Democracy, WHY there was no Opposition Party in Hong Kong daring to Come Out to PROTEST & FIGHT for Pro-Democracy & Democracy for Hong Kong Before 1997...???!!!

    Is there any Conspiracy instead of Democracy?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    Best summarized by a commented I saw in FB:
    The most i see on fb are people especially activists comparing HK situation to singapore and mocking/taking swipe at singaporeans for being brainwashed by social studies that protests are bad for economy and we should learn from them .

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    If they protest only now but not previously (before british - mainland handover), while both don't really offer democracy, does this mean HK people simply prefer one colonist over the other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post

    Best summarized by a commented I saw in FB:
    Whatever it is, I'm sure this protest won't be the last one. More to come.

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    As a colony, one has no voice. The Western powers went to Africa and outright kidnap folks to be sold as slaves. But as a city with a full fledged citizenry, one has the right to make noise.

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    Careful now...... HK people generally hate to draw lessons from rival Singapore

    I think the democracy cry is just an excuse or front for anti-Chonese issues and feelings .... Just that they don't have the infrastructure , self-sufficiency and/or guts to call it a pro-independence protest

    I doubt if HKers know what to do with true democracy beyond lofty ideals even if u gave it to them.

    IMHO hk'ers are very apolitical as long as their interests are protected
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    .. The protesters keep saying "I lOVE HONG KONG"

    ...I would like to add.." I love Hong Kong under the British and not under China"

    ...I will continue to protest if I have food and drink but now i have no food and drink and no support, I have no choice but stay and and... or move away as my supporters have all gone into hiding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    .....I will continue to protest if I have food and drink but now i have no food and drink and no support, I have no choice but stay and and... or move away as my supporters have all gone into hiding!
    "I have to run home to mummy and daddy for a nice hot shower, home cooked food and pocket money .... and charge my psp too"

    Anyway we have BIGGER worries ..... China just announced completion of a 2000m runway for military aircraft on Paracel Islands group ...

    Attention should shift back to Vietnam n Philippines orotests
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed9119 View Post
    Careful now...... HK people generally hate to draw lessons from rival Singapore
    We as the Singaporeans with a proud history of democracy can teach Hong Kong people this:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post

    We as the Singaporeans with a proud history of democracy can teach Hong Kong people this:
    Whatever it is, we are.still alot better off than those hong kees.

    Technically hong kong is still a colonised city, from british colony to chinese colony.

    Of course they are so jealous of us. We have our own national anthem, can represent ourselves in international arena whether in government or sports. UN recognized us as a sovereign country. Our finance minister sits on the IMF committee. We have own government structure, own army and police, make our own policies and laws.

    What does Hong Kong has?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donut88 View Post
    Whatever it is, we are.still alot better off than those hong kees.

    Technically hong kong is still a colonised city, from british colony to chinese colony.

    Of course they are so jealous of us. We have our own national anthem, can represent ourselves in international arena whether in government or sports. UN recognized us as a sovereign country. Our finance minister sits on the IMF committee. We have own government structure, own army and police, make our own policies and laws.

    What does Hong Kong has?

    I very much prefer we live our life.... and HKer live their life and end all this pointless comparing. We are not in their 'shoes'... they are not in ours. History, Location and Situation is totally difference for both of us, comparing which is 'better' is kind of pointless.

    Each Country/State has their own advantage and/or disadvantage.... they have a closer relationship and is part the World next upcoming superpower (for better or worst )... while we might be overtaken by our neighbor countries if we continue to rest on our past laurels, achievement and glory.

    Best we keep working hard for our own betterment.... and let HKers settle their own affairs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitewalk View Post
    The most i see on fb are people especially activists comparing HK situation to singapore and mocking/taking swipe at singaporeans for being brainwashed by social studies that protests are bad for economy and we should learn from them .
    We Singaporean accepts reasonable advice.

    How can protest good for the country! People is unproductive, students become defiance and demand unreasonable requests. loss in revenue for the business, students miss lessons, unnecessary resources deploy to handle unproductive activities, loss in world standing e.g. bad reputation for the nation, loss in confidence for investor etc.....one more add relationship between parents and children......U may wish to add.. I think there are more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post

    We Singaporean accepts reasonable advice.

    How can protest good for the country! People is unproductive, students become defiance and demand unreasonable requests. loss in revenue for the business, students miss lessons, unnecessary resources deploy to handle unproductive activities, loss in world standing e.g. bad reputation for the nation, loss in confidence for investor etc.....one more add relationship between parents and children......U may wish to add.. I think there are more!
    Actually protests are good, for the right reasons

    We won't have the modern USA, France, and other 1st world countries, without protests and even civil wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donut88 View Post
    What does Hong Kong has?
    Even my 6 yrs old daughter can answer this....
    .... DISNEYLAND!!!
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    HK is part of China, no matter what. It was the opium war that caused China to lose HK to the British. A national disgrace at that point in time.

    Now that HK is finally returned back to its mother aka China. The son started to KPKB.

    HK is able to continue to prosper due to China. Look at how the mainlanders spend their money in HK, from jewelries, other luxury goods to properties. Most businesses in HK are dependent on China. Even the western powers have to give some faces to China given its economic power now.

    Spoken to some Hong Kongers to hear their opinions on this crisis. They told me that it is a joke. Bloodly wasting of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donut88 View Post
    What does Hong Kong has?
    A very vocal, passionate and well-organised body of student activists who are prepared to sleep on the streets, go hunger strike, hit with tear gas etc.

    Last edited by Sion; 9th October 2014 at 07:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donut88 View Post
    What does Hong Kong has?

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